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c/trialwatch·posted 3 months ago by u/yara_mensah

endpoint — my 2-week log, condensed into one table

Discussion Long Haul ×7 Receipts ×3

Genuinely asking, not being difficult.

Everyone in c/bloodwork repeats that SELECT is important. I believe it, but I have never seen anyone show why, and when I search I get 18 threads of people agreeing with each other.

Is there a paper? Is there a measurement? Or is this one of those things that is true because it has been repeated since 2023?

I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

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u/hazard_ratio_halMOD353 points·3 months ago

Removed a chain here. The rule is one line long and it is not negotiable.

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u/nightowl_injector151 points·3 months ago

Yeah, absolute numbers matter more than the press release.

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u/enzo_ferrari208 points·3 months ago

the relative risk reduction in headlines is not the whole story

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u/anders_vermeulen124 points·3 months ago

SURMOUNT-4 discontinuation arm showed regain. That is the reality of a chronic disease treatment, not a failure.

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u/forest_plot_fionastats114 points·3 months ago

Is that absolute or relative risk reduction?

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u/careful_gradient_again88 points·3 months ago

press release hazard ratio posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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[deleted]35 points·3 months ago

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u/sten_palacios21 points·3 months ago·edited

press release TRIUMPH posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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u/yara_mensahOP0 points·3 months ago

STEP 1 readout: 99.1% mean weight loss, absolute numbers matter. Spread around that mean is enormous.

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u/anders_karlsen7 points·3 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 96.8, not 97.4. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/rt_shift_reggie59 points·3 months ago
that is the funniest sentence i have read on this site
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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd19 points·3 months ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/sofia_wikstrom5 points·3 months ago

absolute risk reduction, not relative risk reduction, that is how you decide

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u/arne_ilunga45 points·3 months ago

the 16 week readout is different from the 20 week readout

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u/curious_panel_only-16 points·3 months ago

phase 2 is not phase 3, smaller n and shorter trial

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u/tb500_tangent1 point·3 months ago

phase 2 is not phase 3, smaller n and shorter trial

Disagree on that part. 93.7% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/draw_up_dizzy1 point·3 months ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/first_hundred18 points·3 months ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/cold_chromatogram316 points·3 months ago

press release TRIUMPH posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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u/anders_karlsen2 points·3 months ago

What was the dropout rate?

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u/heart_rate_bump3 points·3 months ago

give the trial name, phase, n, and primary endpoint in the body

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u/zaid_roos35 points·3 months ago

The practical rule people converge on is 28 days at fridge temperature after first puncture, and that comes from the preservative, not the peptide.

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u/yara_mensahOP26 points·3 months ago

Phase 2 TRIUMPH looked amazing. Phase 3 trials are harder. Do not anchor on phase 2 readouts.

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