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c/trialwatch·submitted 26 days ago by u/paper_trail_paula

[Results] 47 weeks, 36kg, and SURPASS was the hard part

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Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles. The claim: STEP matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 20 months without either producing anything. What would actually settle it is 13 people measuring the same…

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u/zaid_roos-3 points·25 days ago

the 6 week readout is different from the 7 week readout

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u/rt_shift_reggie1 point·25 days ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/slow_logbook_notes300 points·25 days ago

off-label use data is different from approved-indication data

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u/hedda_adeyemi1 point·25 days ago·edited

press release hazard ratio posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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u/joaquin_stanescu1 point·25 days ago

the discontinuation arms are the interesting part, not the SURMOUNT endpoints

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u/paper_trail_paulaOPvetting1 point·25 days ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/arne_ilunga1 point·25 days ago·edited

off-label use data is different from approved-indication data

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u/anders_kuusela1 point·25 days ago

off-label use data is different from approved-indication data

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 72 weeks to accept.

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u/renal_outcomes_rnephro-curious1 point·25 days ago

Strongly agree. Phase 2 is investigational, not conclusive.

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u/ines_boateng1 point·25 days ago

dropout handling matters, especially on GI-heavy populations

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u/ahmed_iyer1 point·25 days ago

This is correct. Discontinuation arms show the regain reality.

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u/piotr_bruun1 point·24 days ago

give the trial name, phase, n, and primary endpoint in the body

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u/sofia_ferreira1 point·25 days ago

Small correction: the trial was 2 weeks, not 16. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/gastric_emptying_g1 point·25 days ago

Yeah, absolute numbers matter more than the press release.

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u/paper_trail_paulaOPvetting1 point·25 days ago

the relative risk reduction in headlines is not the whole story

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