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c/labresults·posted 1 year ago by u/elise_ramos

[Discussion] the Janoshik advice in here is 20 years out of date

Discussion Receipts ×8 Well Actually ×3

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: purity matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 4 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 37 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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30 in this archive, depth 5

best — the order this archive was captured in

u/arne_restrepo377 points·1 year ago

Batch number? Date of test?

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u/rina_sobczak179 points·1 year ago

the VendorInvestigate and Medutest results differ by 19 points, both inside inter-lab variance

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[removed]82 points·1 year ago

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u/elise_ramosOP-30 points·1 year ago

Tested 24 batches from ERP over 2 weeks. Spread was 97.2% to 97.4, mostly 97.2. Consistent vendor.

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u/rina_bergstrom1 point·1 year ago·edited

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/jarno_cabrera141 points·1 year ago

SGN / BPC / batch 14 / Janoshik / 99.3% — that is the shape

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u/fatima_wojcik221 points·1 year ago

This result fits the template perfectly. Logged.

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u/plateau_patrol337 points·1 year ago

below-spec results get logged, not dismissed

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u/anders_karlsen160 points·1 year ago

below-spec results get logged, not dismissed

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/elise_ramosOP117 points·1 year ago

reship and retest is the honest way to handle a low result

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u/rina_sobczak79 points·1 year ago

below-spec results get logged, not dismissed Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 80 weeks to accept.

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u/kenji_demir52 points·1 year ago

This result fits the template perfectly.

Adding to this: Medutest is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/mateusz_mensah18 points·1 year ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/enzo_fonseca34 points·1 year ago

do not editorialise in the title, put the number in the title and the opinion in the body

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u/marisol_moreau13 points·1 year ago

Yeah, the Medutest number matching the claim is the actual signal.

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u/clara_weiss17 points·1 year ago

This result fits the template perfectly. Logged.

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u/matias_falk25 points·1 year ago

do not editorialise in the title, put the number in the title and the opinion in the body

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u/yara_mensah103 points·1 year ago

This result fits the template perfectly.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/emil_agyeman33 points·1 year ago·edited

do not editorialise in the title, put the number in the title and the opinion in the body

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u/elise_ramosOP37 points·1 year ago

the 93.7% result confirmed the vendor claim, that is the signal

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u/jonas_cardoso24 points·1 year ago

the 93.7% result confirmed the vendor claim, that is the signal

Adding to this: Janoshik is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/coring_the_stopper8 points·1 year ago·edited

Slight fix: the number was 97.4, not 97.2. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/matias_falk0 points·1 year ago

the 99.2% result confirmed the vendor claim, that is the signal

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u/coa_janitorMOD1 point·1 year ago

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/janoshik_junkieindependent tester130 points·1 year ago·edited

Inter-lab variance on this kind of assay is routinely 1–2 points. Different column, different gradient, different integration.

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u/tuva_kirchner69 points·1 year ago

Mechanistically the bit that matters is batch. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.

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u/britta_boateng23 points·1 year ago·edited

sample of one, say so

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u/jonas_cardoso95 points·1 year ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/noor_cardoso42 points·1 year ago

Tested 14 batches from HJ over 46 weeks. Spread was 98.9% to 99.0, mostly 98.9. Consistent vendor.

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u/santiago_rasmussen20 points·1 year ago

You have restated the marketing copy. What is the actual substance here.

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