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c/orforglipron·posted 18 days ago by u/dilara_weiss

reading non-peptide threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly

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reading non-peptide threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.

The no-timing-restriction thing is the part I would care about most in practice, and it barely gets mentioned here.

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not. Different analytical problem entirely.

Nothing containing this compound is approved by any regulator, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/enzo_ferrari0 points·16 days ago

Because it is not a peptide, it is not subject to the same degradation pathways, does not require the absorption enhancers used for oral peptides, and can be formulated as a conventional tablet.

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u/dilara_weissOP1 point·16 days ago

phase 3 is where the comparison becomes fair

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u/dilara_weissOP1 point·16 days ago

Which programme and which readout are you quoting?

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u/lina_bruun23 points·17 days ago

daily dosing, not weekly, so the exposure profile is different

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u/piotr_bruun15 points·18 days ago

Read both programme names carefully after mixing them up in a comment and being politely corrected.

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[deleted]11 points·17 days ago

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u/piotr_bruun6 points·17 days ago

I would not assume the tolerability profile transfers exactly. Similar class effects, different exposure profile.

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u/first_hundred2 points·17 days ago

a non-peptide agonist does not degrade the way a peptide does

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u/fabio_lehtinen1 point·17 days ago

a non-peptide agonist does not degrade the way a peptide does

Adding the standing caveat — unapproved, and research material is not for human use.

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u/kenji_laurent1 point·17 days ago

Same view. The analytical problem is different enough that the usual purity discussions here do not transfer cleanly.

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u/jonas_cardoso4 points·17 days ago

daily dosing changes adherence in both directions

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u/first_hundred7 points·17 days ago

The analytical point, which this board keeps getting wrong by importing habits from the peptide side.

For a peptide, purity is typically reported as area percent by HPLC with identity by mass spectrometry, and the impurity classes are things like deletion and oxidation products. For a small molecule the relevant impurities are synthetic intermediates, degradants and residual solvents, and identity is established differently.

So the certificate you would want looks different, the questions to ask are different, and a "purity" figure quoted here is not comparable to one quoted on the peptide boards. Anybody posting a result should say what method produced it, which is good practice everywhere and essential here.

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u/dilara_weissOP5 points·17 days ago

Compared milligram figures across two completely different molecule classes in a comment. Deserved the correction.

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u/incretin_ivyMOD5 points·17 days ago

Corrected a cross-class dose comparison in the title. The body is untouched.

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u/batch_number_bertievetting4 points·17 days ago

Daily dosing, so what does the exposure profile look like across the day?

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u/meera_sandvik1 point·17 days ago

Spent an evening reading about small-molecule agonism at a peptide receptor. Genuinely interesting engineering.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd-14 points·16 days ago

identity testing on a small molecule is a different analytical problem

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