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c/survodutide·posted 1 year ago by u/britt_abubakar

[Results] 52 weeks, 25kg, and dual agonist was the hard part

Question Well Actually ×9 The Quiet One ×1

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: MASH matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 24 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 37 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD293 points·1 year ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/jarno_adeyemi222 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. The safety story is separate.

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u/elin_ferrari66 points·1 year ago

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/camila_marchand173 points·1 year ago

Yeah, glucagon co-agonism is genuinely different.

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u/liv_vukovic130 points·1 year ago·edited

the heart rate signal is real in the data

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u/britt_abubakarOP76 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. The safety story is separate.

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u/andres_dahlberg103 points·1 year ago

hepatic fat and MASH are the story

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u/whois_wanda82 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. The safety story is separate.

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u/britt_abubakarOP44 points·1 year ago

not approved, descriptive posts only

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u/britt_abubakarOP-38 points·1 year ago

not approved, descriptive posts only

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u/dario_boateng35 points·1 year ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/border_paperwork41 points·1 year ago

phase 4 data is interesting, phase 10 will be different

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u/slow_logbook_notes3060 points·1 year ago

Water content matters more than people think. If a vial is carrying residual moisture, your "10mg" is not 10mg of peptide.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain49 points·1 year ago·edited

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/milos_mensa46 points·1 year ago

do not generalise from tirzepatide

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u/cormac_danquah52 points·1 year ago

Inter-lab variance on this kind of assay is routinely 1–2 points. Different column, different gradient, different integration.

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u/customs_seizure_sid25 points·1 year ago

glucagon co-agonism has a different safety story

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u/vikram_mbeki36 points·1 year ago

rodent dual agonist is investigation only

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u/zeynep_ndiaye13 points·1 year ago

glucagon co-agonism has a different safety story

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u/sofia_ferreira8 points·1 year ago

Not to be pedantic but glucagon and MASH are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/hana_pereira3 points·1 year ago

the heart rate signal is real in the data

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u/throwaway_wl202618 points·1 year ago

Ireland here. Waited 14 months on a list, gave up, went private, and the total cost was roughly what I expected.

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u/lina_ndiaye25 points·1 year ago

Ireland here.

Disagree on that part. 93.7% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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