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c/retatrutide·posted 2 years ago by u/noor_ivaturi

switched from 1.0mg to 2.5mg and the fatigue got better, not worse

Caution Cold Box ×4 Sourced ×2

Long-ish post, sorry. tl;dr at the bottom.

I have been tracking retatrutide against ApoB for 19 weeks because I could not find anyone who had. The correlation is weaker than I expected, which is itself mildly interesting given how confidently people link the two in here.

Caveats up front: one person, one lab, one assay, no control, and I changed my training in the middle of it, which was stupid.

tl;dr: probably real, definitely smaller than the threads imply, and not worth reorganising your week around.

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u/farid_molnar208 points·2 years ago

This is correct. Triple agonism is genuinely different.

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u/noor_ivaturiOP155 points·2 years ago

Dose escalation on retatrutide is steeper and faster than on semaglutide. Do not assume the titration patterns transfer.

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u/anya_moreau38 points·2 years ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/rui_only_ro20 points·2 years ago

heart rate and dose escalation need actual measurements, not impressions

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u/sofia_wikstrom5 points·2 years ago

retatrutide is not approved anywhere for human use, posts must not read as instructions

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u/noor_ivaturiOP85 points·2 years ago

Yeah, phase 2 retatrutide is interesting but it is not comparable to phase 3 compounds.

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u/nabila_bakken129 points·2 years ago

Dose escalation on retatrutide is steeper and faster than on semaglutide.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 4 weeks to accept.

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u/reta_and_regretMOD195 points·2 years ago

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/noor_ivaturiOP111 points·2 years ago

the glucagon component changes the side effect profile, not just the efficacy

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u/honest_syringe33140 points·2 years ago
i changed my mind reading this, which never happens
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u/sofia_wikstrom53 points·2 years ago

the glucagon component changes the side effect profile, not just the efficacy

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u/reflux_report90 points·2 years ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/nausea_notesside effects69 points·2 years ago

phase 2 numbers are not maintenance numbers, cite the trial

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u/careful_gradient_again25 points·2 years ago

Yeah, phase 2 retatrutide is interesting but it is not comparable to phase 3 compounds.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting20 points·2 years ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/fabio_lehtinen48 points·2 years ago

retatrutide is not approved anywhere for human use, posts must not read as instructions

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u/aa_analysis_andy21 points·2 years ago

retatrutide is not approved anywhere for human use, posts must not read as instructions

Adding to this: TRIUMPH is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/rui_only_ro27 points·2 years ago

phase 2 numbers are not maintenance numbers, cite the trial

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u/andres_restrepo32 points·2 years ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/elodie_grimaldi48 points·2 years ago

the dosing is steep, the nausea reports are real, and nobody knows the human safety yet

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u/blunt_coldbox_2024130 points·2 years ago

The practical rule people converge on is 28 days at fridge temperature after first puncture, and that comes from the preservative, not the peptide.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd50 points·2 years ago

What was the dosing schedule in that arm?

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u/matias_falk23 points·2 years ago

the dosing is steep, the constipation reports are real, and nobody knows the human safety yet

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u/kofi_balogun6 points·2 years ago

What was the dosing schedule in that arm?

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u/dead_space_doug0 points·2 years ago

the 7.5mg arm is different from 5mg, results do not transfer

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