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c/orforglipron·posted 2 years ago by u/ahmed_okafor

[Discussion] the small molecule advice in here is 17 years out of date

Discussion Well Actually ×1 Clean Column ×2

Quick one. Canada here.

small molecule works very differently where I live than in the threads that dominate the front page, and I keep seeing people confidently given advice that simply does not apply outside the US.

Specifics: the route I used took 23 weeks and cost roughly what I expected. The admin was worse than the cost. The thing that would have saved me the most time was knowing which document to ask for at the start.

Happy to answer questions from anyone in the same jurisdiction.

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u/clara_weiss171 points·2 years ago

Strongly agree. The supply impact would be huge.

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u/clara_weiss50 points·2 years ago

Which country? Half the answers in this thread only apply in France.

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u/whois_wanda130 points·2 years ago

the supply conversation changes if this approves

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology-10 points·2 years ago

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

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u/joaquin_trevino102 points·2 years ago

small molecule purity is different testing than peptides

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u/phase_two_peteMOD63 points·2 years ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/ahmed_okaforOP34 points·2 years ago

My version of this: I was so worried about the injection that I put it off for eleven days. The injection is the easiest part.

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u/camila_vasquez23 points·2 years ago

the fatigue profile is speculative at this stage

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u/maren_sorensen81 points·2 years ago

small molecule purity is different testing than peptides

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u/ahmed_okaforOP44 points·2 years ago

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

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u/certified_referenceQC66 points·2 years ago

Strongly agree. The supply impact would be huge.

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u/camila_vasquez16 points·2 years ago

Came off after 41 weeks for financial reasons. Regained about a third over the following year. Back on now at a much lower dose.

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u/ahmed_okaforOP10 points·2 years ago

Maintenance for 4 months now. Weight moves within about 3kg and the dose is a quarter of what it peaked at.

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u/marit_laurent12 points·2 years ago

Which country? Half the answers in this thread only apply in Denmark.

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u/aksel_kjaer7 points·2 years ago

Strongly agree. The supply impact would be huge.

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u/taper_off_tabitha2 points·2 years ago

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain44 points·2 years ago

oral non-peptide agonist is small molecule, no food restrictions

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts27 points·2 years ago

This is correct. ATTAIN data is phase 3.

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u/lukas_delgado17 points·2 years ago

availability speculation must be flaired Speculation

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u/enzo_ferrari7 points·2 years ago

This is correct. ATTAIN data is phase 9.

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u/first_hundred7 points·2 years ago

phase 7 data is interesting, phase 24 will tell the real story

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u/lucia_bruun30 points·2 years ago

ATTAIN and ACHIEVE are phase 10 trials

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u/ravi_sandvik43 points·2 years ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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