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c/maintenancephase·posted 3 months ago by u/arne_ndiaye

[Results] 22 weeks, 45kg, and maintenance was the hard part

Results Long Haul ×2 Slow Clap ×3

Genuinely asking, not being difficult.

Everyone in c/customs repeats that goal weight is important. I believe it, but I have never seen anyone show why, and when I search I get 20 threads of people agreeing with each other.

Is there a paper? Is there a measurement? Or is this one of those things that is true because it has been repeated since 2023?

I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

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u/bastian_aalto323 points·3 months ago·edited

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/arne_ndiayeOP217 points·3 months ago

the lowest effective dose question changes at maintenance

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u/piotr_grimaldi104 points·3 months ago

dose-stretching experiences welcome, dose-stretching instructions are not

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u/nadia_trevino272 points·3 months ago
this deserves more than 4 upvotes
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u/osman_ferrari207 points·3 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/zeynep_mbeki282 points·3 months ago

nobody posts about this part and it is the longest part

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[deleted]90 points·3 months ago

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u/arne_ndiayeOP-31 points·3 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 99.2, not 99.1. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/noor_vermeulen1 point·3 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 99.2, not 99.1.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/arne_ndiayeOP1 point·3 months ago

Did you stretch the dose interval?

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u/taper_off_tabithaMOD197 points·3 months ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes138 points·3 months ago

This is correct. Weight variance is normal at maintenance.

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u/old_account_202350 points·3 months ago

This is correct.

Disagree on that part. 97.4% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/copay_card_cc38 points·3 months ago

This is correct. Weight variance is normal at maintenance.

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u/anders_osei20 points·3 months ago

lowest effective dose is lowest effective dose, find it or stay higher

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u/dario_petrescu64 points·3 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/camila_sandvik46 points·3 months ago

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

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u/cesar_oyelaran146 points·3 months ago

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

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u/aurel_mwangi213 points·3 months ago

Regain on a taper is expected. 13% back over 24 weeks, which matches the discontinuation data. Planned for it.

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u/gradient_goblin63 points·3 months ago

weight moves within 2kg and that is normal

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u/sofia_wikstrom26 points·3 months ago

weight moves within 2kg and that is normal

Adding to this: lowest effective dose is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/sanne_delgado16 points·3 months ago

dose-stretching experiences welcome, dose-stretching instructions are not

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u/transit_variance41 points·3 months ago

weight moves within 2kg and that is normal

Disagree on that part. 96.8% and 96.2% on the same vial is normal.

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u/fabio_kuipers59 points·3 months ago

Yeah, maintenance is the boring part and the important part.

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u/hub_opssite staff18 points·3 months ago

weight moves within 2kg and that is normal Disagree on that part.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 75 weeks to accept.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology48 points·3 months ago
wrong community but useful, so, shrug
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u/tomas_lokken23 points·3 months ago

This is correct. Weight variance is normal at maintenance.

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u/nadia_trevino0 points·3 months ago

You have restated the marketing copy. What is the actual substance here.

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u/graph_it_gary1 point·3 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 95.1, not 94.2. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/nadia_trevino1 point·3 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 95.1, not 94.2.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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