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[Question] dose stretching — what am I missing here

Question Cold Box ×6 Clean Column ×1 Well Actually ×1

Long-ish post, sorry. tl;dr at the bottom.

I have been tracking maintenance against ApoB for 29 weeks because I could not find anyone who had. The correlation is weaker than I expected, which is itself mildly interesting given how confidently people link the two in here.

Caveats up front: one person, one lab, one assay, no control, and I changed my training in the middle of it, which was stupid.

tl;dr: probably real, definitely smaller than the threads imply, and not worth reorganising your week around.

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u/food_noise_goneMOD391 points·1 year ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/ferritin_low-3 points·1 year ago

Yeah, maintenance is the boring part and the important part.

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u/hassan_ostergaard290 points·1 year ago

Regain on a taper is expected. 22% back over 10 weeks, which matches the discontinuation data. Planned for it.

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u/aleksi_eriksen79 points·1 year ago

Did you stretch the dose interval?

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u/santiago_ndiaye100 points·1 year ago

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

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u/throwaway_9182130 points·1 year ago

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/hugo_norgaard36 points·1 year ago

state how long you have been at maintenance, week 11 is not maintenance

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u/kenji_vasquezOP21 points·1 year ago

How long at maintenance?

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u/noor_vermeulen152 points·1 year ago

Tried the lowest-effective approach. 7.5mg worked for 24 weeks, then cravings returned. 10mg was the actual floor.

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u/kenji_vasquezOP79 points·1 year ago

Tried the lowest-effective approach.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 24 weeks to accept.

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u/omar_eriksen115 points·1 year ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/brigade_detector33 points·1 year ago·edited

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

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u/ewan_marchand92 points·1 year ago

Weight variance within what range?

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes75 points·1 year ago·edited

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/liv_kuipers19 points·1 year ago

regain after taper is expected, plan for it

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u/cesar_oyelaran137 points·1 year ago

How long at maintenance?

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u/erez_baptista118 points·1 year ago

regain is not a moral failing

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u/tomas_lokken72 points·1 year ago

weight moves within 13kg and that is normal

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain106 points·1 year ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with long term, not with what you concluded.

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u/kenji_vasquezOP60 points·1 year ago

Regain on a taper is expected. 24% back over 15 weeks, which matches the discontinuation data. Planned for it.

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