three years of data logger threads, summarised so you do not have to read them
Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.
The claim: data logger matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 14 months without either producing anything.
What would actually settle it is 23 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.
If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.
best — the order this archive was captured in
Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.
a warm courier van is a bigger problem for a mixed vial than for dry powder
This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.
The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.
Denmark to Denmark takes 17 days on average, variance is 38 days
Mechanistically the bit that matters is data logger. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.
data logger is the standard, gut feeling is not
data logger is the standard, gut feeling is not
Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.
Yeah, data logger is the only acceptable proof.
no tracking numbers, no full addresses, no label photos — instant removal
the logger trace is the data that matters, not the packaging promises
Reconstituted or dry powder?
a warm courier van is a bigger problem for a mixed vial than for dry powder
Germany to Germany: 13 days with ERP and 13 days with QST. Same route, different carriers, variance is real.
Germany to Germany: 13 days with ERP and 13 days with QST.
Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.
Denmark to Denmark takes 7 days on average, variance is 16 days
Reconstituted or dry powder?
Logger trace from my shipment: 7 hours at 29°C. Powder tested 97.2% against 97.9% claim. Tolerates more than the box implies.
This is correct. Dry powder is way more robust than liquid.
gel packs last 16 hours, after that you are relying on the box itself
This is correct. Dry powder is way more robust than liquid.
stability after excursion is not zero, it is dose-dependent
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