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c/orforglipron·posted 1 year ago by u/trialwatch_theo

[Results] 36 weeks, 9kg, and oral GLP-1 was the hard part

Trial Data The Quiet One ×4 Sourced ×3

36 weeks, 9kg, and oral GLP-1 was the hard part. This is a description of what happened to me and not a plan for anybody else.

Numbers, in the order they matter: 36 weeks and 9kg.

Read both programme names carefully after mixing them up in a comment and being politely corrected.

The no-timing-restriction thing is the part I would care about most in practice, and it barely gets mentioned here.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/search_before_post81 points·1 year ago

Why "oral" is doing two completely different jobs in the sentences people write here.

Oral semaglutide is a peptide co-formulated with an absorption enhancer, which is why it comes with food and water timing requirements. This compound is a non-peptide small molecule that activates the same receptor, formulated as an ordinary tablet.

The practical consequences differ enormously: no timing constraints, a conventional manufacturing route, different stability behaviour, and a different analytical problem for anybody trying to verify identity or purity. Whenever a thread here compares the two, check which sense of "oral" each half is using.

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u/neha_rahimi70 points·1 year ago

Holding off on any opinion until phase 3 reports. That is not a satisfying position and it is the honest one.

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u/yara_boateng-12 points·1 year ago

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not. Different analytical problem entirely.

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u/aksel_kjaer1 point·1 year ago

What did the tolerability table look like at that dose?

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u/preservative_free_p1 point·1 year ago

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not.

This is the fact the whole board hangs on. Small molecule, not peptide.

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u/hamza_weiss0 points·1 year ago

a non-peptide agonist does not degrade the way a peptide does

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u/brigade_detector32 points·1 year ago

Spent an evening reading about small-molecule agonism at a peptide receptor. Genuinely interesting engineering.

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u/piotr_bruun21 points·1 year ago

Is that from the publication or the press release?

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u/ahmed_okafor18 points·1 year ago

Compared milligram figures across two completely different molecule classes in a comment. Deserved the correction.

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u/enzo_ferrari13 points·1 year ago

It is a non-peptide small-molecule agonist at the GLP-1 receptor. That is a substantial medicinal chemistry achievement: getting a small molecule to activate a receptor evolved for a peptide ligand.

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u/search_before_post7 points·1 year ago

Correcting myself: that was a phase 2 readout and I described it as phase 3.

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