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c/maintenancephase·submitted 2 years ago by u/sena_balogun

lowest effective dose — 4 things I got wrong before I got it right

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Genuinely asking, not being difficult. Everyone in c/trialwatch repeats that goal weight is important. I believe it, but I have never seen anyone show why, and when I search I get 9 threads of people agreeing with each other. Is there a paper? Is there a measurement? Or is this one of those things that is true…

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u/noor_cardoso117 points·2 years ago

The plateau is real and boring. 28 weeks at the same weight, then movement again. Patience was the intervention.

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u/brigade_detector40 points·2 years ago

the plateau is where the learning happens

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u/hassan_ostergaard19 points·2 years ago

Small correction: the trial was 21 weeks, not 20. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/rasmus_petrescu16 points·2 years ago·edited

Strongly agree. Lowest effective dose is a real discovery process.

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u/ewan_marchand138 points·2 years ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/ilias_nakamura90 points·2 years ago

state how long you have been at maintenance, week 13 is not maintenance

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u/osman_ferrari85 points·2 years ago

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

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u/sena_balogun37 points·2 years ago

Yeah, maintenance is the boring part and the important part.

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u/camila_sandvik10 points·2 years ago

weight moves within 3kg and that is normal

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u/maintenance_mode_maxmaintenance36 points·2 years ago·edited

Regain on a taper is expected. 6% back over 12 weeks, which matches the discontinuation data. Planned for it.

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