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week 41 check-in — 32kg down, nausea manageable, one thing confusing me

Discussion Well Actually ×2

prior authorization. That is the whole post, but I will justify it.

Everything else people worry about in c/dosinglogs is downstream of it. Titration speed, muscle cramps, the endless dose arguments — most of it resolves if you sort prior authorization out first, and almost nobody does.

I say this having got it wrong for 8 months. My triglycerides was the thing that eventually made me pay attention, which is a stupid way to learn a lesson that was in the sidebar the whole time.

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u/kasper_cabrera181 points·2 years ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 15–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/prior_auth_painMOD91 points·2 years ago·edited

Removed a chain here. The rule is one line long and it is not negotiable.

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u/nikhil_asante62 points·2 years ago

Denied for prior auth, resubmitted with external review documentation, approved on appeal. The criteria exist, you just have to meet them.

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u/solene_eriksen47 points·2 years ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/dose_diary_danalog keeper105 points·2 years ago

do not suggest misrepresenting a diagnosis, that is fraud

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes36 points·2 years ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/marisol_moreau20 points·2 years ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/jarno_adeyemi0 points·2 years ago

redact member ids and group numbers from every screenshot

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u/ismael_nwosu61 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

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[deleted]44 points·2 years ago

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u/prior_auth_painappeals29 points·2 years ago

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Adding to this: copay is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/controversial_onlyOP20 points·2 years ago

the UK plan: step therapy required 19 medications first. Did them all, got approval. The order matters.

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u/rekha_vestergaard13 points·2 years ago

external review is the appeal after insurance says no

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u/controversial_onlyOP10 points·2 years ago

external review is the appeal after insurance says no

Adding to this: external review is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/marisol_moreau14 points·2 years ago

the carve-out clause varies by employer

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u/amira_dumitru36 points·2 years ago

Which plan type? formulary is different.

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u/honest_syringe1920 points·2 years ago

This is correct. Appeal letters work.

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u/controversial_onlyOP8 points·2 years ago

do not suggest misrepresenting a diagnosis, that is fraud

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u/ilias_cabrera11 points·2 years ago

prior auth criteria are state-specific, appeal differs

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u/emeka_delgado59 points·2 years ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/saskia_rahimi30 points·2 years ago·edited

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 14–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/osman_ferrari23 points·2 years ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/honest_syringe1911 points·2 years ago

prior auth criteria are state-specific, external review differs

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u/fabio_kuipers18 points·2 years ago

Crossposting this to c/cryptopay because the people who need it are not reading this community.

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u/ignacio_vanhecke5 points·2 years ago

external review is the appeal after insurance says no

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