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c/coa·posted 1 year ago by u/kavya_verhoeven

batch vs related substances — genuinely asking which matters more

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Long-ish post, sorry. tl;dr at the bottom.

I have been tracking area percent against ApoB for 31 weeks because I could not find anyone who had. The correlation is weaker than I expected, which is itself mildly interesting given how confidently people link the two in here.

Caveats up front: one person, one lab, one assay, no control, and I changed my training in the middle of it, which was stupid.

tl;dr: probably real, definitely smaller than the threads imply, and not worth reorganising your week around.

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u/nikhil_lindqvist101 points·1 year ago

Sent one vial to PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate. 98.4% and 99.0%. Cost me more than the vial did and I would do it again.

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[deleted]73 points·1 year ago

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u/coa_collectorarchivist33 points·1 year ago

area% is not mass%, and here is exactly why it matters

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u/gallbladder_gary48 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis? Both are load-bearing.

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u/yara_antonsen20 points·1 year ago

chromatogram or it did not happen

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u/isabela_nilsen7 points·1 year ago

Slight fix: the number was 97.6, not 98.9. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/mikkel_correia96 points·1 year ago
more of this energy please
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u/anecdata_annie114 points·1 year ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/kavya_verhoevenOP42 points·1 year ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/sunday_shot_sal48 points·1 year ago

chromatogram or it did not happen

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u/certified_referenceMOD65 points·1 year ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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u/coa_collectorarchivist45 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Mass% and area% are answering different questions on the same document.

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u/tuva_aalto17 points·1 year ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/priya_palacios41 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Mass% and area% are answering different questions on the same document.

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u/laila_yilmaz21 points·1 year ago·edited

the batch number or it did not happen

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u/bastian_aalto15 points·1 year ago
n=1 but same
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u/liv_nkemelu8 points·1 year ago

area% is not mass%, and here is exactly why it matters

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u/neha_erdogan4 points·1 year ago

the method line is doing real work, not just window dressing

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u/yara_antonsen4 points·1 year ago·edited

area% is not mass%, and here is exactly why it matters

Disagree on that part. 97.9% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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u/ignacio_silva11 points·1 year ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/kavya_verhoevenOP8 points·1 year ago

What is the method line say? Not the technique, the actual method.

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u/bastian_moreau4 points·1 year ago

The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.

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u/kavya_verhoevenOP3 points·1 year ago

the related substances line is where the story is

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u/nadia_fonseca8 points·1 year ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/hassan_chowdhury-13 points·1 year ago

Yeah, 96.8% area is not the problem, the missing impurity breakdown is the problem.

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