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c/coa·posted 1 year ago by u/wrong_network_w

stalled for 23 weeks at 5mg and I refuse to panic this time

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purity. That is the whole post, but I will justify it.

Everything else people worry about in c/sideeffects is downstream of it. Titration speed, early fullness, the endless dose arguments — most of it resolves if you sort purity out first, and almost nobody does.

I say this having got it wrong for 20 months. My eGFR was the thing that eventually made me pay attention, which is a stupid way to learn a lesson that was in the sidebar the whole time.

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u/emeka_chowdhury1.5k points·1 year ago·edited

the related substances line is where the story is

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u/teodor_lokken-27 points·1 year ago

What is the method line say? Not the technique, the actual method.

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u/wrong_network_wOP1 point·1 year ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/andres_restrepo769 points·1 year ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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[deleted]551 points·1 year ago

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u/wrong_network_wOP207 points·1 year ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/wrong_network_wOP149 points·1 year ago

Four months on the site and I was confusing area% and mass% in every post I made. One explainer thread and it clicked.

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u/anecdata_annie180 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Mass% and area% are answering different questions on the same document.

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u/marisol_frisk40 points·1 year ago

Not to be pedantic but water content and batch are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/yannick_haddad16 points·1 year ago

the method line is doing real work, not just window dressing

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u/dario_boateng634 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis? Both are load-bearing.

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u/coa_janitormod · c/coa372 points·1 year ago

Sent one vial to Medutest and PeptideMeter. 96.2% and 96.8%. Cost me more than the vial did and I would do it again.

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u/sunday_shot_sal107 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Mass% and area% are answering different questions on the same document.

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u/receptor_bias_rick441 points·1 year ago

Water content matters more than people think. If a vial is carrying residual moisture, your "10mg" is not 10mg of peptide.

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u/sofia_ferreira113 points·1 year ago

the counterion is part of the mass you paid for

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u/ignacio_silva71 points·1 year ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/joaquin_ivaturi131 points·1 year ago

This is the correct framing. The COA structure matters as much as the number.

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u/freya_baptista298 points·1 year ago

Did they give you the chromatogram or just the summary line?

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u/teodor_jansen140 points·1 year ago

Tested the GLB raw material and a reseller vial side-by-side. Same purity claim, different impurity profiles. Handling matters.

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u/soren_nkemelu76 points·1 year ago

The COA I was holding said 96.8% area and I thought it was trash. Turns out the method was solid and the impurity profile was clean.

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u/wanjiru_varga26 points·1 year ago

chromatogram or it did not happen

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u/low_appetite_lisa99 points·1 year ago

the batch number or it did not happen

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u/tove_ogunleye46 points·1 year ago

the batch number or it did not happen

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/certified_referenceMOD97 points·1 year ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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