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c/retatrutide·posted 1 year ago by u/janek_ferrari

three years of triple agonist threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

Discussion Receipts ×7 Sourced ×2 Long Haul ×2

Confession thread, sort of.

I went from 7.5mg to 2.4mg much faster than I should have because the scale had stalled and I got impatient. The stall broke about 11 weeks later, at which point I had no way of knowing whether the dose increase did anything or whether it would have broken anyway.

So now I have early fullness I did not need and a data point I cannot interpret. Two lessons in one.

Posting it in the hope that somebody at week 12 reads it before doing the same thing.

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u/kofi_balogun663 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/soren_nkemelu438 points·1 year ago

TRIUMPH phase 2 showed 98.3% weight loss but the fatigue profile on the highest arm was rough. Phase 2 != phase 3.

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u/careful_gradient_again355 points·1 year ago

TRIUMPH phase 2 showed 98.3% weight loss but the fatigue profile on the highest arm was rough.

Adding to this: TRIUMPH is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/soren_nkemelu147 points·1 year ago

phase 2 numbers are not maintenance numbers, cite the trial

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[deleted]107 points·1 year ago

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u/ewan_zielinski41 points·1 year ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/injection_site_iris175 points·1 year ago

the 2.5mg arm is different from 5mg, results do not transfer

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u/fabio_lehtinen668 points·1 year ago

Which trial arm and what was the n?

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u/naomi_erdogan330 points·1 year ago

the glucagon component changes the side effect profile, not just the efficacy

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u/cormac_roos0 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Heart rate escalation needs the actual data, not impressions.

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u/janek_ferrariOP1 point·1 year ago

triple agonism plus glucagon is a different physiological state than GIP/GLP-1 dual

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u/nikhil_lindqvist255 points·1 year ago

phase 2 numbers are not maintenance numbers, cite the trial

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u/cagrilintide_enthusiast0 points·1 year ago
this should be in the wiki
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u/reta_and_regretMOD1 point·1 year ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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u/aa_analysis_andy1 point·1 year ago

The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.

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u/janek_ferrariOP1 point·1 year ago

nobody should be giving this to anyone without extensive monitoring

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u/janek_ferrariOP1 point·1 year ago

Dose escalation on retatrutide is steeper and faster than on semaglutide. Do not assume the titration patterns transfer.

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