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c/cryptopay·posted 8 months ago by u/gradient_goblin

unpopular opinion: chargeback is massively overrated

Fees Cold Box ×9 Long Haul ×1

Posting this because I searched for it and got nothing useful.

Setup: 5mg, week 72, sulphur burps present but not ruining anything. I changed exactly one variable — escrow — and tracked it for 16 weeks.

Result: a difference, but a small one, and well inside what I would call noise if someone else posted it. So I am putting it here rather than presenting it as a finding. If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something.

Not medical advice, obviously. This is one person with a spreadsheet.

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u/week_four_wall196 points·8 months ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/escrow_evangelist160 points·8 months ago·edited

network selection matters, wrong chain is the expensive typo

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u/gradient_goblinOP-9 points·8 months ago

Group buy used escrow. 3 people, 3 shipped without drama. Escrow is the insurance.

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u/rasmus_kuipers131 points·8 months ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/escrow_evangelist94 points·8 months ago

the 21% discount versus 26% network fees

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u/gradient_goblinOP66 points·8 months ago

Group buy used escrow. 9 people, 37 shipped without drama. Escrow is the insurance.

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u/laila_almeida42 points·8 months ago

the 4% discount versus 40% network fees

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u/zeynep_zielinski35 points·8 months ago

USDC exists on 5 networks, vendor credits are network-specific

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u/ilias_nakamura13 points·8 months ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/gradient_goblinOP40 points·8 months ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/noor_hovland65 points·8 months ago

Crossposting this to c/cagrilintide because the people who need it are not reading this community.

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u/jarno_cabrera50 points·8 months ago

network selection matters, wrong chain is the expensive typo

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u/nabila_espinoza56 points·8 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU27 points·8 months ago

memo/tag requirements differ by network

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting9 points·8 months ago

escrow for group buys is standard, use it

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics30 points·8 months ago

Stablecoin or other?

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u/andres_dahlberg17 points·8 months ago

Yeah, the network selection matters most.

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u/milos_trevino0 points·8 months ago

Stablecoin or other?

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u/karim_hartmann1 point·8 months ago

the 20% discount versus 19% network fees

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