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c/compounding·posted 1 year ago by u/hugo_bergstrom

unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about API source is guesswork

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Something I keep coming back to: unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about API source is guesswork.

The intake asked me three questions and none of them were about my history. That told me everything I needed to know about the model.

Switched between two compounded preparations and the concentration on the label was different. Redid the arithmetic on paper before drawing anything.

Asked for the beyond-use date basis and got a real answer with a stability reference attached. Not universal, apparently.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/niels_roos227 points·1 year ago

Nothing in this thread is medical advice, and the choice between arrangements is one for you and a prescriber who knows your history.

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u/hugo_bergstromOP175 points·1 year ago

503A or 503B — do you know which?

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u/milos_mensa81 points·1 year ago

Concentration on the compounded vial was different from what I had been using and I nearly did the arithmetic on autopilot.

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u/vikram_mbeki150 points·1 year ago

Salt form matters for mass: a preparation specified as one salt and dosed as the free base gives you a different amount of peptide for the same number on the label.

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u/solene_eriksen120 points·1 year ago

Small fix — 503B facilities register with the regulator; 503A pharmacies are licensed by the state board. Different mechanisms.

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u/receptor_bias_rick93 points·1 year ago·edited

Small fix — 503B facilities register with the regulator; 503A pharmacies are licensed by the state board.

This is the distinction the whole board runs on. Everything else follows from it.

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u/slow_logbook30 points·1 year ago

the API source is the question nobody asks and everybody should

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u/escrow_evangelist103 points·1 year ago

Who is the prescriber, and are they the same organisation as the pharmacy?

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u/rekha_mwangi84 points·1 year ago·edited

Who is the prescriber, and are they the same organisation as the pharmacy?

Disagreeing with this bit: registration is not equivalence, and the two get run together constantly.

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u/sofia_danquah24 points·1 year ago

I would not read the price difference as a quality signal. Most of it is the consultation model, not the vial.

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u/pavel_kravchenko44 points·1 year ago

That is not what patient-specific means. It refers to the prescription, not to a customisation of the formula.

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u/emil_okwuosa-6 points·1 year ago

a telehealth intake that asks nothing has told you what it is

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u/ahmed_okafor1 point·1 year ago

a telehealth intake that asks nothing has told you what it is

emil_okwuosa is right about the concentration trap. It breaks arithmetic that has been reliable for months.

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u/draw_up_dizzy1 point·1 year ago

the label on a compounded vial is a legal document, read it

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u/tobias_vukovic40 points·1 year ago

Same view. If the intake asked you nothing, the intake was a formality and you should factor that in.

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u/sofia_nascimento23 points·1 year ago

A beyond-use date derived from published stability data means something different from one assigned by default rule. Asking which is a fair question and the answer is usually available.

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u/rania_diallo5 points·1 year ago

shortage status changes and the whole arrangement changes with it

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u/sofia_nascimento2 points·1 year ago

shortage status changes and the whole arrangement changes with it

Agreed — and the follow-up question is what the beyond-use date is based on.

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u/joaquin_trevino3 points·1 year ago

Was there potency testing on the finished preparation, or only on the starting material?

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes25 points·1 year ago

Disagree — a 503B being registered does not make its preparations equivalent to an approved product. Different regulatory category entirely.

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u/usp_appendixMOD9 points·1 year ago

Reminder that nothing here is medical advice and this board cannot tell you which arrangement to choose.

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u/jonas_eriksen16 points·1 year ago

salt forms are the recurring argument and the answer is boring

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u/lukas_delgado23 points·1 year ago

Potency and sterility testing on the finished preparation are separate from any certificate covering the starting material. Ask which you are being shown.

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u/hugo_bergstromOP16 points·1 year ago

Correcting my own comment: the shortage status changed in the interim, so the arrangement I described no longer applies.

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u/vikram_mbeki9 points·1 year ago

This. Compounded preparations carry no equivalence claim, and treating them as generics is a category error people make constantly.

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u/niels_roos9 points·1 year ago

Correcting my own comment: the shortage status changed in the interim, so the arrangement I described no longer applies.

Adding one thing — ask for the facility name. Most will give it, and the ones that will not have answered you.

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u/runa_grimaldi3 points·1 year ago

if a clinic will not name the facility, that is your answer

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