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c/coa·posted 11 months ago by u/cormac_pereira

why does nobody talk about certificate of analysis

Question Well Actually ×5 Receipts ×1

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: certificate of analysis matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 13 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 3 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/tuva_aalto592 points·11 months ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 20–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/karma_irrelevant-31 points·11 months ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/amira_dumitru1 point·11 months ago

the method line is doing real work, not just window dressing

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u/cormac_pereiraOP1 point·11 months ago

Did they give you the chromatogram or just the summary line?

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u/amylin_amyamylin1 point·11 months ago·edited

area% is not mass%, and here is exactly why it matters

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u/teodor_lokken1 point·11 months ago

Yeah, 96.8% area is not the problem, the missing impurity breakdown is the problem.

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u/elodie_yilmaz263 points·11 months ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/anders_kuusela274 points·11 months ago

chromatogram or it did not happen

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u/first_hundredMOD168 points·11 months ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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u/hassan_chowdhury253 points·11 months ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes.

Adding to this: batch is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/janek_ferrari71 points·11 months ago

the method line is doing real work, not just window dressing

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u/elodie_yilmaz80 points·11 months ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes.

Disagree on that part. 96.8% and 96.2% on the same vial is normal.

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u/coa_collectorarchivist183 points·11 months ago

the batch number or it did not happen

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u/rohan_steiner0 points·11 months ago

The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.

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u/mikkel_correia1 point·11 months ago

the counterion is part of the mass you paid for

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u/milos_trevino1 point·11 months ago

the counterion is part of the mass you paid for

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 23 weeks to accept.

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u/cormac_pereiraOP1 point·11 months ago

redact your own name, not the vendor's batch details

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u/mikkel_correia1 point·11 months ago·edited

the batch number or it did not happen

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u/anya_correia1 point·11 months ago

the batch number or it did not happen

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/amara_halonen1 point·11 months ago

axis labels included, always

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u/yusuf_nakamura87 points·11 months ago

purity and net content are two different numbers, same vial

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u/tomas_lehtinen26 points·11 months ago·edited

Water content on the document? That affects your concentration math.

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u/neha_erdogan18 points·11 months ago

redact your own name, not the vendor's batch details

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[deleted]7 points·11 months ago

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u/priya_palacios47 points·11 months ago

Metadata check caught a COA that was created in a browser four months after the analysis date. Not evidence of fraud, but worth flagging to SGN.

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u/fatima_wojcik39 points·11 months ago

Metadata check caught a COA that was created in a browser four months after the analysis date.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 79 weeks to accept.

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u/joaquin_ivaturi51 points·11 months ago

Water content was 3.8%, acetate was 6.2%, purity was 99%, but net peptide was only 90% of the label weight. Perfectly honest, just chemistry.

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u/mikkel_correia31 points·11 months ago

axis labels included, always

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u/milos_trevino16 points·11 months ago

Cosigning. The batch number is load-bearing information.

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