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c/tirzepatide·posted 2 years ago by u/crosspost_bot_no

[Question] how do you actually verify GIP

Question The Quiet One ×3

Long-ish post, sorry. tl;dr at the bottom.

I have been tracking SURMOUNT against eGFR for 31 weeks because I could not find anyone who had. The correlation is weaker than I expected, which is itself mildly interesting given how confidently people link the two in here.

Caveats up front: one person, one lab, one assay, no control, and I changed my training in the middle of it, which was stupid.

tl;dr: probably real, definitely smaller than the threads imply, and not worth reorganising your week around.

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u/alcohol_aversion1 point·2 years ago

the appetite change on tirz is more than just reduced hunger, it is different machinery

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u/santiago_villalobos1 point·2 years ago

The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.

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u/two_mil_or_one1 point·2 years ago

the dual agonism hits different and that is why people describe it differently

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution1 point·2 years ago·edited

Yeah, dual agonism does produce a different appetite profile than GLP-1 alone.

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