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c/survodutide·submitted 8 months ago by u/patient_labslip_log

someone explain biopsy to me like I have not read a paper in years

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Slightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: someone explain biopsy to me like I have not read a paper in years. Bought small because the evidence base is early. That is the only defensible position I could construct. The honest evidence position, written out so this board does not drift. Phase 2 data exists in a…

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u/fibre_forward46 points·8 months ago

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis without worsening of steatohepatitis. Both are harder to achieve and to interpret than an imaging surrogate.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology54 points·8 months ago

Disagree — that is a weight endpoint from a different programme and you are quoting it in a hepatic context.

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u/rania_marchand17 points·8 months ago

the weight numbers are secondary to what this is being developed for

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u/cormac_danquah5 points·8 months ago

Cosigning on the glucagon arm. It is the mechanistic thread that connects the hepatic and the metabolic effects.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology4 points·8 months ago

Independent purity results for this compound are very sparse across the whole site, which means any impression about consistency is built on almost nothing.

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u/renzo_yildiz5 points·8 months ago

Phase 2 in a biopsy-confirmed population is a demanding design: recruitment is slow, the population is specific, and the results do not generalise to people who have not been characterised that way.

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u/refund_ledger45 points·8 months ago

Small fix — dual agonist, GLP-1 and glucagon. No GIP arm in this molecule.

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u/preservative_free_p31 points·8 months ago

Agreed. The hepatic programme is the point of this compound and the weight discussion is a side effect of the side effect.

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