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c/coldchain·posted 1 months ago by u/milos_vestergaard

someone explain cold chain to me like I have not read a paper in years

PSA Slow Clap ×2 Sourced ×1 Clean Column ×3

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: data logger matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 21 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 7 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/niels_norgaard658 points·1 months ago

The gel pack lasted 2 hours in a courier van, then liquid. Powder itself fine, the cold chain mostly died in transit.

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u/ferran_laurent369 points·1 months ago

the logger trace is the data that matters, not the packaging promises

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u/anya_rautio155 points·1 months ago

Which carrier and route?

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u/coldchain_karenMOD353 points·1 months ago·edited

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/nikhil_asante239 points·1 months ago

a warm courier van is a bigger problem for a mixed vial than for dry powder

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u/reship_roulette148 points·1 months ago

Reconstituted or dry powder?

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u/search_before_post438 points·1 months ago

Customs clearance took 7 days. Package sat unrefrigerated during that. Powder tested clean after, reconstituted solution probably would not have.

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u/jarno_adeyemi-23 points·1 months ago

customs clearance often breaks the cold chain, factor that in

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u/dario_bakken97 points·1 months ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/lina_almeida327 points·1 months ago

Inter-lab variance on this kind of assay is routinely 1–2 points. Different column, different gradient, different integration.

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u/isabela_nilsen143 points·1 months ago

time-at-temperature integral is the dose, not just peak temperature

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u/analog_alphabet0 points·1 months ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with data logger, not with what you concluded.

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u/priya_weiss1 point·1 months ago

Logger trace from my shipment: 10 hours at 31°C. Powder tested 99.1% against 94.2% claim. Tolerates more than the box implies.

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