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c/tapering·posted 1 year ago by u/anders_kuusela

[Results] 32 weeks, 45kg, and regain was the hard part

Results Receipts ×1 Cold Box ×2

I have had 17 orders now and I keep a table, so here is the honest summary rather than a vibe.

Material has been consistent. Communication has not. Shipping has varied by about 38 days on nominally the same lane, which matters more in summer than in February.

The independent number came back 97.9% against a claimed 94.2%, which I read as agreement rather than a discrepancy — inter-lab variance on this assay is a point or two either way and treating one lab as ground truth is how people end up in pointless arguments with vendors.

Batch number is in the comments. Ask if you want the method.

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u/rafael_sjoberg103 points·1 year ago

say how long you were on and at what dose before taper

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u/ahmed_okafor35 points·1 year ago

say how long you were on and at what dose before taper

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 31 weeks to accept.

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u/skip_week_scepticMOD104 points·1 year ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/marta_weiss80 points·1 year ago

cite the discontinuation data rather than guessing regain rates

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u/source_or_silence27 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. The regain is expected.

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u/janek_ferrari26 points·1 year ago

Yeah, regain is not a failure.

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u/cormac_roos20 points·1 year ago

no shaming people who restart

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u/jarno_adebayo26 points·1 year ago

Did anything else change in the same window?

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u/cormac_roos54 points·1 year ago

cite the discontinuation data rather than guessing regain rates

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u/janek_ferrari20 points·1 year ago

cite the discontinuation data rather than guessing regain rates

Adding to this: regain is doing more work than the comment implies.

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[removed]7 points·1 year ago

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u/anders_kuusela33 points·1 year ago

Sweden here. Waited 19 months on a list, gave up, went private, and the total cost was roughly what I expected.

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u/border_paperwork25 points·1 year ago
this deserves more than 4 upvotes
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u/ilias_nakamura6 points·1 year ago

Not to be pedantic but discontinuation and tapering are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/arne_amankwah4 points·1 year ago

Not to be pedantic but discontinuation and tapering are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 39 weeks to accept.

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u/valeria_cardoso15 points·1 year ago

What was the batch number and which service?

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u/laila_delgado9 points·1 year ago

no shaming people who restart

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u/yara_bakken3 points·1 year ago·edited

no shaming people who restart

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/rekha_teixeira18 points·1 year ago

cite the discontinuation data rather than guessing regain rates

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Stopping on purpose: dose reduction versus interval stretching, what the discontinuation arms of STEP 1 and SURMOUNT-4 actually showed about regain, appetite return timelines, and the people who came off, regained, and went back on without treating it as a failure.

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