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c/scamalerts·posted 1 year ago by u/ismael_pires

[Meta] proposal — a flair for fraud posts

Confirmed Clean Column ×4 The Quiet One ×3 Sourced ×2

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: scam matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 11 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 25 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/adaeze_brandt481 points·1 year ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with PDF metadata, not with what you concluded.

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u/careful_gradient107 points·1 year ago

This is evidence. The metadata is checkable and it is odd.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes252 points·1 year ago

the batch number appearing across three vendors is a red flag

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u/ismael_piresOP184 points·1 year ago

the batch number appearing across three vendors is a red flag

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/naomi_erdogan74 points·1 year ago

sock puppet accounts ask the same leading questions

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u/osman_brandt-20 points·1 year ago

This is evidence. The metadata is checkable and it is odd.

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u/isabela_nilsen210 points·1 year ago

PDF metadata said the COA was created in a browser four months after the date printed on the page. Worth flagging.

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u/ferran_dahlberg303 points·1 year ago

cloned storefronts use old images, search for those

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[removed]205 points·1 year ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/ismael_piresOP133 points·1 year ago

Batch 7 appeared on SSA, KP, and SSA claims it is raw material origin. Could be fine, could be reseller. Logged it in the directory.

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u/signe_boateng0 points·1 year ago

This is evidence. The metadata is checkable and it is odd.

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u/tuva_aalto120 points·1 year ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 13–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/meera_sandvik65 points·1 year ago

Can you post the Medutest result that shows the problem?

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u/solene_ilunga48 points·1 year ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 13–5.

Adding to this: group buy is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/ismael_pires102 points·1 year ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/dilara_szabo36 points·1 year ago

evidence required, dated screenshots, metadata, order records, or independent test

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u/ismael_piresOP28 points·1 year ago·edited

evidence required, dated screenshots, metadata, order records, or independent test

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u/ferran_dahlberg81 points·1 year ago·edited

reseller scams versus fraud scams are different accusations

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u/valeria_karlsen28 points·1 year ago

Dated screenshot or is this from memory?

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u/rulebook_rachaelmod · c/meta33 points·1 year ago

the batch number appearing across three vendors is a red flag

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution43 points·1 year ago

Dated screenshot or is this from memory?

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