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TB-500 — 10 things I got wrong before I got it right

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Something I noticed reading old threads that I have not seen said out loud.

The advice on secretagogue in this community changed substantially around the start of last year, and nobody went back and updated the older posts. So depending on which thread the search engine hands you, you get two contradictory answers with the same confidence.

I have listed what I think the current consensus is below. Correct me — that is the point of posting it.

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u/rui_only_roMOD77 points·1 year ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/due_diligence_deeOP42 points·1 year ago

Yeah, identity is the first question.

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u/insulin_syringe_ian20 points·1 year ago

What was the batch number and which service?

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u/tb500_tangent13 points·1 year ago

regulatory status varies by country, check yours

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u/rui_only_ro6 points·1 year ago

regulatory status varies by country, check yours

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 35 weeks to accept.

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u/reads_the_wiki7 points·1 year ago

focus on identity verification, handling, evidence state

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u/nadia_kjaer-30 points·1 year ago

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

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u/anya_moreau1 point·1 year ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/rui_only_ro1 point·1 year ago

purity and identity are two questions

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u/iman_castellanos29 points·1 year ago

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

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u/aa_analysis_andy12 points·1 year ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/georgi_adebayo21 points·1 year ago

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

Disagree on that part. 97.9% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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u/anya_moreau17 points·1 year ago·edited

This is correct. Name it precisely.

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u/honest_syringe9 points·1 year ago

everything else in the vial drawer, research peptides

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u/gustav_solberg30 points·1 year ago

name the compound precisely, TB-500 and Thymosin Beta-4 are not the same

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u/reads_the_wiki19 points·1 year ago

thymosin fragments, GH secretagogues, handling, long tail

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u/chidi_yilmaz13 points·1 year ago

thymosin fragments, GH secretagogues, handling, long tail

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/due_diligence_deeOP6 points·1 year ago

not approved for human use, full stop

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u/refund_ledger10 points·1 year ago

This is correct. Name it precisely.

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u/hassan_ostergaard15 points·1 year ago

focus on identity verification, handling, evidence state

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u/due_diligence_deeOP4 points·1 year ago

The nausea was genuinely awful for three weeks and then simply stopped. I know that is not useful information, but it is what happened.

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u/naomi_antonsen17 points·1 year ago

Rodent data is rodent data. Dose scaling is not linear and the models tell you what to investigate, not what to expect.

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