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c/cryptopay·posted 7 months ago by u/blunt_coldbox_notes

three years of chargeback threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

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Something I noticed reading old threads that I have not seen said out loud.

The advice on confirmations in this community changed substantially around the start of last year, and nobody went back and updated the older posts. So depending on which thread the search engine hands you, you get two contradictory answers with the same confidence.

I have listed what I think the current consensus is below. Correct me — that is the point of posting it.

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u/yara_mensah296 points·7 months ago·edited

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

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[deleted]107 points·7 months ago

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u/neha_falk255 points·7 months ago

memo/tag requirements differ by network

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u/niels_lindqvist156 points·7 months ago

the 3% discount versus 21% network fees

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u/ravi_bergstrom36 points·7 months ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notesOP0 points·7 months ago

gas versus discount arithmetic is real

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u/escrow_evangelistMOD96 points·7 months ago

Removed a chain here. The rule is one line long and it is not negotiable.

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u/greta_nilsen55 points·7 months ago

Removed a chain here.

Disagree on that part. 98.4% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/search_before_post18 points·7 months ago

Small correction: the trial was 7 weeks, not 28. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/kian_ekstrom46 points·7 months ago

Stablecoin or other?

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u/gradient_goblin31 points·7 months ago·edited

Small correction: the trial was 21 weeks, not 31. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/lurker_for_years122 points·7 months ago

Crossposting this to c/cagrilintide because the people who need it are not reading this community.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notesOP47 points·7 months ago

Sent orfo payment to the wrong chain. Spain, wrong network, vendor could not credit it. 8 day lesson.

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u/arne_amankwah125 points·7 months ago

What was the gas and did it matter?

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u/rasmus_kuipers87 points·7 months ago

This is correct. Gas fees are real costs.

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u/noor_hovland125 points·7 months ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notesOP93 points·7 months ago

The discount was 97.9% but gas ate half of it. Still worth it but the math matters.

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u/lina_novak102 points·7 months ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/week_four_wall104 points·7 months ago

Yeah, the network selection matters most.

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u/purity_pedantanalytical85 points·7 months ago

escrow for group buys is standard, use it

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u/cormac_erdogan38 points·7 months ago·edited

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/amara_kuipers58 points·7 months ago

the 2% discount versus 31% network fees

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u/week_two_confused_202636 points·7 months ago

the 10% discount versus 4% network fees

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u/ms_fragmenter60 points·7 months ago

This is correct. Gas fees are real costs.

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u/chain_confirm_cpayments45 points·7 months ago

Sent orfo payment to the wrong chain. the Netherlands, wrong network, vendor could not credit it. 18 day lesson.

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u/hugo_pires21 points·7 months ago

Strongly agree. Escrow is non-negotiable for groups.

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u/kian_ekstrom9 points·7 months ago

memo/tag requirements differ by network

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u/yara_mensah21 points·7 months ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/search_before_post7 points·7 months ago

chargeback rights are escrow: zero

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