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c/scamalerts·posted 9 months ago by u/priya_palacios

PDF metadata — my 11-week log, condensed into one table

Confirmed Cold Box ×7 The Quiet One ×2 Receipts ×3

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: cloned site matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 20 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 25 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim227 points·9 months ago

Yeah, the batch number across three vendors is a real signal.

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u/chidi_vermeulen-8 points·9 months ago

Strongly agree. The dispute resolved and the record stayed updated.

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u/camila_sandvik107 points·9 months ago

group buy exit scams follow a pattern

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u/lucia_bruun30 points·9 months ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/rina_bergstrom71 points·9 months ago

Yeah, the batch number across three vendors is a real signal.

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u/priya_palacios25 points·9 months ago

reseller scams versus fraud scams are different accusations

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u/priya_palaciosOP50 points·9 months ago

evidence required, dated screenshots, metadata, order records, or independent test

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u/divya_bakken15 points·9 months ago

a dispute resolves, edit the post and say so

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u/careful_gradient_notes41 points·9 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/priya_palaciosOP27 points·9 months ago

The SSA exit scam collected 17 orders and disappeared. Order ids 13 through 17 all silent.

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u/farid_kuipers34 points·9 months ago

Crossposting this to c/retatrutide because the people who need it are not reading this community.

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u/priya_palaciosOP13 points·9 months ago

The WWB exit scam collected 18 orders and disappeared. Order ids 25 through 18 all silent.

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u/aa_analysis_andy4 points·9 months ago·edited

evidence required, dated screenshots, metadata, order records, or independent test

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u/zaid_eriksen8 points·9 months ago

Yeah, the batch number across three vendors is a real signal.

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[deleted]12 points·9 months ago

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u/freya_onwuka8 points·9 months ago

the reship offer that never sends anything is worth noting

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u/joaquin_ivaturi4 points·9 months ago

Strongly agree. The dispute resolved and the record stayed updated.

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