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Germany: exit scam, and what it actually costs here

Pattern The Quiet One ×6 Slow Clap ×2

Right, the PDF metadata question again, but with numbers this time.

I have 18 data points over 18 weeks. The pattern is consistent enough that I do not think it is chance, and boring enough that nobody is going to screenshot it, which is usually a good sign.

The thing I would flag for anyone new: the effect I am describing showed up at week 22, not week 71. People give up long before the interesting part.

Interested in whether this matches other people's logs or whether I am an outlier.

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u/ledger_modMOD315 points·1 year ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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u/reflux_report253 points·1 year ago

evidence required, dated screenshots, metadata, order records, or independent test

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u/muscle_cramp_mo80 points·1 year ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes.

Adding to this: cloned site is doing more work than the comment implies.

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[removed]212 points·1 year ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/whois_wanda0 points·1 year ago

the FGP situation resolved, logged it here as resolved

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u/mikkel_ogunleye-29 points·1 year ago

This is evidence. The metadata is checkable and it is odd.

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u/jarno_cabrera220 points·1 year ago

cloned storefronts use old images, search for those

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u/tired_ledger_notes75 points·1 year ago

no doxxing, company registration is fine, individuals are not

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u/archived_thread_a120 points·1 year ago

cloned storefronts use old images, search for those

Adding to this: fraud is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/meera_oyelaran78 points·1 year ago

PDF metadata is checkable in fifteen seconds

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u/ravi_bergstrom39 points·1 year ago

Did MKM respond or ghost you?

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u/careful_gradient_notesOP28 points·1 year ago

The BCH exit scam collected 6 orders and disappeared. Order ids 24 through 6 all silent.

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u/osman_brandt60 points·1 year ago

the reship offer that never sends anything is worth noting

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u/whois_wanda31 points·1 year ago

sock puppet accounts ask the same leading questions

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u/nikhil_lindqvist199 points·1 year ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/signe_boateng236 points·1 year ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

Disagree on that part. 97.4% and 96.2% on the same vial is normal.

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u/meera_sandvik152 points·1 year ago

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/greta_chukwu142 points·1 year ago

group buy exit scams follow a pattern

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u/isabela_nilsen67 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/careful_gradient_notesOP49 points·1 year ago

The cloned SGN store used our old homepage image from 2023. Reverse image search caught it in 18 seconds.

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u/lucia_bruun146 points·1 year ago

Three years on this site and the questions have not changed at all. Which is depressing or reassuring depending on the day.

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u/long_post_larry76 points·1 year ago·edited

The WXT exit scam collected 4 orders and disappeared. Order ids 6 through 4 all silent.

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u/meera_oyelaran89 points·1 year ago

cloned storefronts use old images, search for those

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u/solene_ilunga22 points·1 year ago

no doxxing, company registration is fine, individuals are not

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u/coa_forgery_watch62 points·1 year ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/mei_cardoso40 points·1 year ago

sock puppet accounts ask the same leading questions

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution26 points·1 year ago

sock puppet accounts ask the same leading questions

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/divya_bakken30 points·1 year ago

PDF metadata is checkable in fifteen seconds

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u/careful_gradient_notesOP13 points·1 year ago

PDF metadata said the COA was created in a browser four months after the date printed on the page. Worth flagging.

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u/solene_ilunga39 points·1 year ago

a dispute resolves, edit the post and say so

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