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c/scamalerts·posted 2 years ago by u/careful_gradient

genuine question about fraud that I am slightly embarrassed to ask

Confirmed Clean Column ×5 Sourced ×1 The Quiet One ×3

I have had 7 orders now and I keep a table, so here is the honest summary rather than a vibe.

Material has been consistent. Communication has not. Shipping has varied by about 22 days on nominally the same lane, which matters more in summer than in February.

The independent number came back 99.0% against a claimed 99.1%, which I read as agreement rather than a discrepancy — inter-lab variance on this assay is a point or two either way and treating one lab as ground truth is how people end up in pointless arguments with vendors.

Batch number is in the comments. Ask if you want the method.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts596 points·2 years ago

I love that this community will spend 40 comments on a detail. That pedantry is why the numbers here matter.

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u/laila_wikstrom372 points·2 years ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with fake COA, not with what you concluded.

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u/camila_sandvik310 points·2 years ago

group buy exit scams follow a pattern

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u/nordic_pricing93 points·2 years ago

PDF metadata is checkable in fifteen seconds

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u/careful_gradient234 points·2 years ago

Yeah, the batch number across three vendors is a real signal.

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u/careful_gradientOP396 points·2 years ago

evidence required, dated screenshots, metadata, order records, or independent test

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u/meera_sandvik109 points·2 years ago

the reship offer that never sends anything is worth noting

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u/careful_gradientOP-21 points·2 years ago

reseller scams versus fraud scams are different accusations

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u/solene_ilunga121 points·2 years ago

the HJ situation resolved, logged it here as resolved

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u/muscle_cramp_mo43 points·2 years ago

Not to be pedantic but group buy and cloned site are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/careful_gradientOP24 points·2 years ago

The KP exit scam collected 21 orders and disappeared. Order ids 21 through 21 all silent.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting325 points·2 years ago·edited

sock puppet accounts ask the same leading questions

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[deleted]120 points·2 years ago

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u/rui_only_ro303 points·2 years ago

Did MKM respond or ghost you?

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u/stubborn_batchlist_pls129 points·2 years ago

Yeah, the batch number across three vendors is a real signal.

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u/camila_sandvik89 points·2 years ago

Dated screenshot or is this from memory?

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u/whois_wanda182 points·2 years ago

Water content matters more than people think. If a vial is carrying residual moisture, your "10mg" is not 10mg of peptide.

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u/ferran_dahlberg88 points·2 years ago

Three years on this site and the questions have not changed at all. Which is depressing or reassuring depending on the day.

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u/osman_brandt30 points·2 years ago

the reship offer that never sends anything is worth noting

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