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c/glp1science·posted 1 year ago by u/bastian_eriksen

the half-life question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

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the half-life question that gets asked weekly, answered properly. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.

Long half-life in this class comes from structural modification that promotes albumin binding and resists enzymatic degradation. Weekly dosing is a consequence of the molecule, not a convenience decision.

GLP-1 receptor agonism acts both peripherally — insulin secretion in a glucose-dependent way, slowed gastric emptying — and centrally, on appetite regulation. The central component is the better explanation for sustained intake reduction.

The incretin effect is the observation that oral glucose provokes a larger insulin response than intravenous glucose at matched glycaemia, and the difference is mediated by gut hormones. That is the foundation the whole class sits on.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/rafael_ostergaard295 points·1 year ago

Receptor expression in a tissue is necessary but not sufficient for an effect. You also need the agonist to reach it at relevant exposure, and that is where a lot of confident mechanism talk falls down.

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u/incretin_ivyMOD151 points·1 year ago

Retitled to distinguish preclinical from clinical, which the original ran together.

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u/enzo_petrescu101 points·1 year ago

Small fix — it slows gastric emptying, it does not halt it, and the distinction matters for the mechanism you are proposing.

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u/annika_fonseca31 points·1 year ago

dose response is not linear and nobody should assume it is

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u/emeka_chowdhury238 points·1 year ago·edited

GIP receptor biology is genuinely unsettled — there is a live argument about agonism versus antagonism at the receptor — and the clinical results are robust regardless, which is an uncomfortable and interesting position.

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u/osman_eriksen116 points·1 year ago

GIP receptor biology is genuinely unsettled — there is a live argument about agonism versus antagonism at the receptor — and the clinical results are

Adding the caveat the paper itself makes in its limitations section, which is stronger than anything in this thread.

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u/hassan_ostergaard108 points·1 year ago

albumin binding is most of the half-life story

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u/vikram_mbeki221 points·1 year ago

Spent an evening on the receptor distribution literature and the side-effect map suddenly stopped looking random.

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u/amara_dziedzic297 points·1 year ago

Tolerance to the gastric effect develops with continued exposure while the appetite effect largely persists. That single fact explains most of the "it settles but it still works" pattern the side-effect board reports.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology84 points·1 year ago

Do you have the paper, or a summary of it?

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u/kavya_kravchenko120 points·12 months ago

Glucose-dependent insulin secretion is why hypoglycaemia risk is low as monotherapy: the effect scales with glycaemia rather than acting unconditionally.

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u/saskia_lokken47 points·12 months ago

Is there any human data on that mechanism yet?

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u/camila_mensa-28 points·12 months ago

Started reading limitations sections first. It has changed how much weight I give to almost everything posted here.

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u/greta_lokken69 points·1 year ago

incretin effect first, then everything else in this board makes sense

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u/tomas_broberg54 points·1 year ago

That study was in a rodent model. Worth stating, since the thread has been reading it as human data.

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u/bastian_eriksenOP0 points·1 year ago

Correcting my own comment: I attributed that to the GIP arm and the paper attributes it to the GLP-1 arm.

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u/devils_advocate_d1 point·1 year ago

receptor distribution is why the side effects are where they are

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u/flair_enthusiast1 point·12 months ago

Read the primary paper after arguing about the summary for a fortnight. The discussion section said almost the opposite of what the thread had concluded.

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