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c/vendorvetting·submitted 1 year ago by u/soren_nkemelu

[Discussion] can we stop arguing about VendorInvestigate until somebody posts a number

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Asking properly rather than in a comment on somebody else’s thread: can we stop arguing about VendorInvestigate until somebody posts a number. Inter-lab variance on this assay runs a point or two either way. Two services disagreeing by that much is agreement, not a discrepancy, and treating it otherwise starts…

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u/bence_zielinski91 points·1 year ago

Same view. A record you can read beats a rating you cannot inspect, every time.

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u/search_before_post108 points·1 year ago

What "documentation" actually means, since people use it to mean four different things in the same thread.

A certificate of analysis is one document about one lot. A batch record is the manufacturing trail behind that lot. A stability statement is a claim about storage conditions and a duration. A method line is how the number on the certificate was produced.

You can ask for all four. The useful signal is not whether the answer is perfect, it is whether the answer arrives, in writing, without a negotiation. GL Biochem sends the method line unprompted; once you have seen that you stop accepting a bare number from anybody.

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u/sig_figs_sammod · analytical52 points·1 year ago

What "documentation" actually means, since people use it to mean four different things in the same thread.

Would qualify this slightly. Fewer entries means less sampling, and less sampling is not the same as a worse process.

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u/gustav_lindholm0 points·1 year ago

Yes. Spread across lots is the number that tells you about the process. A single high result tells you about a vial.

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u/elin_ferrari1 point·1 year ago

The wider-market rows in the directory carry a band and a report count and nothing else, deliberately. Anything more would be manufacturing precision that the evidence does not support.

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u/receipts_or_nothingvetting26 points·1 year ago

lead time quoted at checkout is the number to hold them to

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution38 points·1 year ago

This. Ask for the batch record. The ones who send it inside a day have told you more than any review could.

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