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c/vendorvetting·posted 1 year ago by u/lina_almeida

reading testing threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly

Question Clean Column ×3 Slow Clap ×2 Receipts ×1

Thinking out loud about this: reading testing threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly.

The wider-market rows in the directory carry a band and a report count and nothing else, deliberately. Anything more would be manufacturing precision that the evidence does not support.

Where a supplier holds regional stock, ask which lines are actually held there rather than drop-shipped. It changes the lead time and it changes the customs question.

Asked CPC for the batch record on a Tuesday and had the full document, batch and method line, before the end of the day. That is the bar now.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/janoshik_junkieMOD834 points·1 year ago

Flair set to Vendor. Also a reminder that we take no money from any supplier in the directory.

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u/rina_nascimento1.2k points·1 year ago

Is that from the source page log or from memory?

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u/adnan_sandvik229 points·1 year ago

Independent testing is worth more than a supplied certificate for one structural reason: the chain of custody. A member who buys, ships and pays is testing the same thing you would receive.

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u/ignacio_silva284 points·1 year ago·edited

Independent testing is worth more than a supplied certificate for one structural reason: the chain of custody.

adnan_sandvik is describing the batch record test and it is the fastest signal available before you spend anything.

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u/lina_almeidaOP518 points·1 year ago

a directory entry is a record, not a recommendation

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u/elin_ferrari778 points·1 year ago

three independent results beat thirty forum posts

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u/kaia_cabrera366 points·1 year ago

What did they say when you asked for the method line?

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u/ireland_drugs_pay128 points·1 year ago

Did you ask for the batch-specific certificate, or the generic one?

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u/receipts_or_nothingvetting42 points·1 year ago

Yes. Spread across lots is the number that tells you about the process. A single high result tells you about a vial.

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u/rohan_krastev107 points·1 year ago

Small fix — the figure you quoted is the claimed purity from the certificate, and the independent result was the higher of the two.

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u/lina_almeida-7 points·1 year ago

Sent the same compound from TFC and WXT to Janoshik in the same month. Both came back above the claim on the certificate — mine was 97.7% on a stated 97.0%.

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u/throwaway_titration401 points·1 year ago

a claim with no batch number is a marketing document

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u/sena_ferreira198 points·1 year ago

a claim with no batch number is a marketing document

Would qualify this slightly. Fewer entries means less sampling, and less sampling is not the same as a worse process.

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u/amara_haddad477 points·1 year ago

the source page log is more useful than the score above it

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u/zeynep_duarte108 points·1 year ago

Regional stock made more difference to my planning than anything else — ordering from a warehouse in the UK took the customs question off the table entirely.

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u/boots_or_bust77 points·1 year ago

Six orders across two years from JEEP. Same packaging, same paperwork, same lead time. The most boring supplier relationship I have and I mean that as praise.

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u/zeynep_duarte159 points·1 year ago

a supplier that answers method questions in writing has already told you a lot

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u/anders_osei264 points·1 year ago·edited

Which lane, and what was the quoted lead time at checkout?

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u/reads_the_wiki218 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on lot matching. It sounds trivial and it predicts almost everything else about how an operation is run.

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u/lina_almeidaOP89 points·1 year ago

Xi'an Health Biochem came up in three threads the week I was ordering and I could not find a single independent result for them anywhere. Went with a documented supplier instead.

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u/zeynep_villalobos70 points·1 year ago

buy small first, test it, then decide

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u/lina_almeidaOP170 points·1 year ago

lead time quoted at checkout is the number to hold them to

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u/sig_figs_sammod · analytical91 points·1 year ago

Right — QYB publishes the method line on the certificate, and once you have seen one that does you notice every one that does not.

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u/gustav_lindholm30 points·1 year ago

the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the certificate, every time

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting33 points·1 year ago

ask for the batch record before you ask for a discount

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u/teodor_lokken40 points·1 year ago

The thing that decided it for me was that BCH answered a column-and-gradient question in writing without asking why I wanted to know.

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u/aleksi_lehtinen175 points·1 year ago

Yes, and the reason the wider-market table has no scores is that a score built on two reports would be a lie with a decimal point.

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u/ignacio_silva52 points·1 year ago

This. Ask for the batch record. The ones who send it inside a day have told you more than any review could.

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u/laila_almeida0 points·1 year ago

This.

Agreed — and the corollary is that "no data" and "bad data" have to be written differently. The table separates them for exactly that reason.

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