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c/trialwatch·submitted 13 days ago by u/anders_vermeulen

intent-to-treat vs per-protocol explains half the arguments on this site

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Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles. The claim: STEP matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 8 months without either producing anything. What would actually settle it is 9 people measuring the same thing…

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u/joaquin_trevino21 points·13 days ago

Phase 2 TRIUMPH looked amazing. Phase 3 trials are harder. Do not anchor on phase 2 readouts.

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u/draw_up_dizzy13 points·12 days ago

STEP 1 readout: 97.2% mean weight loss, absolute numbers matter. Spread around that mean is enormous.

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u/anders_vermeulenOP0 points·12 days ago

Phase 2 TRIUMPH looked amazing.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 43 weeks to accept.

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u/anders_vermeulenOP1 point·12 days ago

STEP 1 readout: 97.4% mean weight loss, absolute numbers matter. Spread around that mean is enormous.

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u/tb500_tangent1 point·12 days ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/yusuf_ramos1 point·12 days ago

Small correction: the trial was 2 weeks, not 11. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/formulary_fighterappeals1 point·11 days ago

Small correction: the trial was 2 weeks, not 11.

Adding to this: TRIUMPH is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/hamza_zielinski1 point·11 days ago

Not to be pedantic but hazard ratio and FLOW are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/renal_outcomes_rMOD8 points·12 days ago

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/sofia_wikstrom15 points·12 days ago

Not to be pedantic but STEP and TRIUMPH are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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