[Stats] number needed to treat, or i am not interested
number needed to treat, or i am not interested, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board. Read a press release and the publication three months apart. The hedging in the second one was substantial. Compared myself to a trial mean for about six months before realising the trial arm had dietitian contact…
Argued for a week about a result and then read the limitations section, which conceded most of my opponent’s point.
Small fix — that was the cardiovascular outcomes trial, so weight was a secondary endpoint and the population was different.
Spent an evening with the appendix tables and found the subgroup detail that the entire thread had been speculating about.
Correction: SURMOUNT is the obesity programme and SURPASS is the diabetes one. The figure you quoted belongs to the other one.
That is the 68-week readout, not the 72-week one. Different trial, different duration.
registry entry, protocol, publication — three different documents