week 16 check-in — 5kg down, reflux manageable, one thing confusing me
Six-word version is the title — week 16 check-in — 5kg down, reflux manageable, one thing confusing me — and the rest is context.
The relevant figures are week 16 and 5kg, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time.
Week 95 was the first time the scale moved after a five-week stall. I changed nothing in that window.
Came off sema and onto tirz with a two-week gap. The first month was flat and I assumed I had made a mistake. Month two it moved.
Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.
best — the order this archive was captured in
The distribution matters more than the mean. In the trial population the interquartile spread was wide enough that two honest people can have completely different runs on the same arm.
That percentage is body weight change, not body fat. Different measurement, and the distinction gets lost every time.
Which week did the appetite change actually land for you?
if 7.5 is working, 10 is not automatically better
Trial identifiers corrected in the title. SURMOUNT and SURPASS are different programmes.
Appetite effect for me is flat across seven days. On sema it was a wave. Same person, different molecule.
Appetite effect for me is flat across seven days.
This. The step interval is a floor, and reading it as a timetable is the most expensive mistake in the thread.
Push back: "gentler than sema" is a population statement. Plenty of people on this board have the opposite experience and they are not doing it wrong.
Small fix: SURMOUNT is the obesity programme, SURPASS is the type-2 programme. They are different endpoints and the numbers do not transfer.
dual agonist, so the GIP arm is doing something the sema threads will not tell you about
Push back: "gentler than sema" is a population statement.
tove_vasquez is right that the two molecules are not interchangeable. There is no published conversion and the ones circulating are invented.
tove_vasquez is right that the two molecules are not interchangeable.
Not sure about this bit. The GIP arm being real does not tell you that it is what caused your particular week.
15kg over 76 weeks, never went past 10mg, and muscle cramps stayed mild the whole way. Posting because the loud threads are all 15mg.
What step are you on and how long have you been there?
This matches mine. Milder fatigue than I expected, and what there was settled inside a fortnight of each step.
What is the waist doing? That is usually the number still moving during a scale stall.
switching from sema is not a dose conversion, there is no clean equivalence
Correction to my own post above — I said 12.5mg and I have been on 15mg since the spring. Same argument, wrong number.
Pen or vial? The step sizes available differ and it changes this answer.
Right. And the sema-to-tirz "conversion" people post is invented. There is no published equivalence.
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