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c/survodutide·posted 3 months ago by u/old_account_2023

[Discussion] hepatic fat is doing more work than we give it credit for

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hepatic fat is doing more work than we give it credit for. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.

Imaging-derived liver fat fraction is a surrogate. It correlates with histology imperfectly, and a trial reporting one is not reporting the other.

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis without worsening of steatohepatitis. Both are harder to achieve and to interpret than an imaging surrogate.

It is a dual agonist at the GLP-1 and glucagon receptors. The glucagon arm is associated with increased energy expenditure and with effects on hepatic fat, which is why the development programme is oriented towards liver disease.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/rafael_sjoberg87 points·3 months ago

Independent purity results for this compound are very sparse across the whole site, which means any impression about consistency is built on almost nothing.

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u/deleted_my_history34 points·3 months ago

Same. Very thin independent data on this one, which should make everybody here more tentative than they are.

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u/elin_tamm44 points·3 months ago

This. Biopsy-confirmed and imaging-suggested are different evidentiary categories and get run together constantly.

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u/zeynep_villalobos30 points·3 months ago

That figure is from the obesity programme, and this thread is about the hepatic one.

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u/renzo_asante34 points·3 months ago

Agreed that the endpoint definitions matter enormously and almost nobody reads them before quoting a response rate.

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u/old_account_2023OP19 points·3 months ago

Spent an evening on the histology scoring system and understood the trial literature far better afterwards.

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u/elin_ferrari14 points·3 months ago

I would not read across from the obesity programmes. Different population, different endpoint, different question.

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u/isabela_nilsen23 points·3 months ago

this board is small because the compound is early

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u/georgi_adebayo0 points·3 months ago

Nothing containing this compound is approved anywhere. Research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

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