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c/survodutide·posted 1 year ago by u/renzo_yildiz

[Lab] WWB survo — Medutest came back 99.2% against a claimed 98.5%

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WWB survo — Medutest came back 99.2% against a claimed 98.5%. One vial, one service, one member paying, which is the only kind of result this board should treat as evidence.

99.2% and 98.5%. Those are measured, not estimated, and not rounded up in my favour.

Bought small because the evidence base is early. That is the only defensible position I could construct.

What this compound is actually being developed for, since the boards treat it as a weight-loss molecule with a footnote.

It is a dual GLP-1 and glucagon receptor agonist, and the glucagon arm links to hepatic fat and energy expenditure. The headline programme is metabolic liver disease, with endpoints scored on biopsy rather than on a scale.

That matters for how the data should be read. A histological response rate in a biopsy-confirmed population answers a very different question from a mean weight change in an obesity trial, and quoting one in place of the other — which happens in nearly every thread here — is not a comparison.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/kian_ferreira83 points·1 year ago·edited

Imaging-derived liver fat fraction is a surrogate. It correlates with histology imperfectly, and a trial reporting one is not reporting the other.

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u/vitamin_d_void63 points·1 year ago

Independent purity results for this compound are very sparse across the whole site, which means any impression about consistency is built on almost nothing.

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u/cato_girard53 points·1 year ago

That is an escalation schedule for an unapproved compound and this board does not host those.

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u/cato_batista15 points·1 year ago

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis without worsening of steatohepatitis. Both are harder to achieve and to interpret than an imaging surrogate.

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u/kaia_kuusela35 points·1 year ago·edited

I would not read across from the obesity programmes. Different population, different endpoint, different question.

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u/whois_wanda13 points·1 year ago

Assumed the weight numbers were the point and was corrected. They are secondary to what this is being developed for.

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u/laila_yilmaz0 points·1 year ago

Assumed the weight numbers were the point and was corrected.

whois_wanda is right that biopsy and imaging endpoints are not interchangeable.

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u/liver_enzyme_liz21 points·1 year ago

The escalation schedules in the published protocols are slow and deliberate, and the tolerability tables show why. That is a description of the trials rather than a suggestion for anybody.

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