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c/survodutide·posted 6 days ago by u/thermal_mass_tom

[Trial Data] phase 2 biopsy endpoints, and what "resolution" means

Trial Data Receipts ×2 Cold Box ×3

Posting this because I searched for it and got nothing useful.

Setup: 15mg, week 49, sulphur burps present but not ruining anything. I changed exactly one variable — biopsy — and tracked it for 12 weeks.

Result: a difference, but a small one, and well inside what I would call noise if someone else posted it. So I am putting it here rather than presenting it as a finding. If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something.

Not medical advice, obviously. This is one person with a spreadsheet.

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u/julia_mensa110 points·6 days ago
four days. it took four days for me.
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u/tuva_kirchner50 points·5 days ago

the heart rate signal is real in the data

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u/elin_tamm12 points·5 days ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/ismael_nwosu7 points·5 days ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

Disagree on that part. 97.4% and 96.2% on the same vial is normal.

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u/thermal_mass_tomOP4 points·5 days ago

Stalled for 8 weeks, changed nothing, and it started moving again on week 38.

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u/thermal_mass_tom63 points·4 days ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

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u/dario_boateng23 points·4 days ago

the GLP-1/glucagon dual is hepatic fat, different from GIP/GLP-1

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u/heart_rate_bump30 points·4 days ago

do not generalise from tirzepatide

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology66 points·5 days ago

not approved, descriptive posts only

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u/incretin_ivyMOD36 points·5 days ago·edited

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/kasper_cabrera44 points·5 days ago·edited

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/certified_referenceQC18 points·5 days ago

glucagon co-agonism has a different safety story

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u/dexa_twice_yearlybody comp4 points·4 days ago

the heart rate signal is real in the data

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u/andres_dahlberg29 points·5 days ago

Flair changed to match the content.

Disagree on that part. 96.8% and 96.2% on the same vial is normal.

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u/slow_logbook_notes3027 points·5 days ago

Not to be pedantic but survodutide and biopsy are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/thermal_mass_tomOP18 points·5 days ago·edited

Which trial arm?

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u/draw_up_dizzy45 points·5 days ago·edited

Yeah, glucagon co-agonism is genuinely different.

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u/vikram_mbeki26 points·4 days ago

I love that this community will spend 40 comments on a detail. That pedantry is why the numbers here matter.

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u/paper_trail_paulavetting20 points·4 days ago

glucagon co-agonism has a different safety story

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u/andres_dahlberg6 points·4 days ago·edited

This is correct. Do not generalise from tirzepatide.

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u/coa_janitormod · c/coa12 points·4 days ago

hepatic fat and survodutide are the story

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u/camila_marchand5 points·4 days ago

glucagon injection is a different vector than GLP-1

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