[Discussion] we are measuring food noise at the wrong time and calling it noise
we are measuring food noise at the wrong time and calling it noise. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments. injection-site soreness made the first fortnight rough at each step up, then flattened out. Predictable enough that I started planning around it. Dropped my injection day by two…
Cosigning. The appetite change and the scale change ran about three weeks apart for me too.
Cosigning.
Right, and the timescale is the bit that keeps getting lost. Judge a step at a month, not at a weekend.
the food noise going quiet is the effect people actually describe
Removed the dose recommendation. You can describe what you did; you cannot tell somebody else what to take.
dose day drift of a day either way is fine, the curve barely notices
Kept a log from week one and the single most useful column turned out to be waist, not weight.
the scale is the least sensitive instrument you own
dose day drift of a day either way is fine, the curve barely notices
Adding one thing to this: the appetite effect and the scale run on separate clocks, so both halves can be true at once.
That figure is the 68-week trial mean, not a weekly rate. Dividing it by the weeks gives you a number that does not mean anything.
The mental model that finally made this click for me: there are two curves, and people watch the wrong one.
The first is exposure, which is set by the dose and smoothed by a week-long half-life. It changes when you change the dose and then settles over about a month. The second is body weight, which is exposure filtered through appetite, food, water, sleep, training and the scale itself, and which moves in steps rather than a line.
Almost every "it stopped working" post is somebody watching curve two over a fortnight and drawing conclusions about curve one. If the appetite effect is still there, exposure is fine. Wait the month.