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c/scamalerts·posted 4 days ago by u/coa_forgery_watch· stickied

[Resolved] i accused QYB of a fake COA. i was wrong. correcting the record.

Resolved Cold Box ×1

Two weeks ago I posted that a QYB certificate had a producer string inconsistent with laboratory software and implied it was generated.

It was a re-export. The original instrument PDF exists, they sent it within a day of being asked, and it matches the re-export line for line including the impurity table. The producer string was odd because somebody in their office had opened it and saved it again, which is the least interesting explanation available and also the correct one.

I was wrong, publicly, and I am correcting it publicly. The original post stays up with an edit at the top, because deleting it would leave the accusation circulating with no correction attached to it.

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u/ledger_modMOD445 points·3 days ago

This is exactly how it is supposed to work and I want it on the record.

The observation was real. The conclusion drawn from it was not. The correction is public, dated, and attached to the original. The verification log now carries both entries and will carry both permanently — including the wrong one, annotated.

Two of these in three years. Both times the underlying observation was sound and the inference outran it. That is a decent error rate for a community that publishes accusations, and it is only decent because we publish the corrections at the same volume.

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u/coa_forgery_watchOP187 points·3 days ago

the thing that stings is that i wrote the "check before you accuse" line in the pattern list. turns out writing it and doing it are separate skills.

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u/gentle_correctionnice about it154 points·3 days ago

you did do it though. you checked, found you were wrong, and said so at the top of the thread instead of quietly in a reply. that is the whole procedure working.

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u/receipts_or_nothingvetting118 points·3 days ago

and QYB answered a hostile question with the document instead of a lawyer, which is its own data point in their favour.

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u/sequence_checkerresearch peptides94 points·2 days ago

they did the same for me on a custom peptide — sequence and theoretical mass, unprompted. the technical side of that company is genuinely responsive.

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u/paper_trail_paulavetting76 points·2 days ago

2008 entity, verified, custom synthesis capability corroborated by two members with written quotes. the record has been quiet for three years.

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u/due_diligence_dee176 points·3 days ago

this thread is the reason i trust this community more than any review site. nobody on a review site has ever retracted anything.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts121 points·3 days ago·edited

adding a note to the pattern list: a suspicious metadata field is a reason to ask, not a reason to publish. edit: worded it as "the file is a lead, not a finding".

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u/downvote_magnet-19 points·3 days ago

so the metadata check is useless then

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u/coa_forgery_watchOP132 points·3 days ago

no — it did its job. it flagged a document worth asking about, and asking resolved it in a day. the check found something; i mislabelled what it found.

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u/quiet_moderatorMOD88 points·3 days ago

Removed two "should have known better" replies. c/darkspot exists partly so people can post being wrong; making that expensive here would mean fewer corrections, not fewer errors.

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