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c/scamalerts·posted 2 years ago by u/fatima_yildiz

[Meta] proposal — a flair for fake COA posts

PSA Long Haul ×3 Slow Clap ×1 Cold Box ×2

Proposal, not a decision: proposal — a flair for fake COA posts.

Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular.

Ask for the batch-specific certificate before payment. Any operation with a quality system behind it can produce one; the request costs you nothing and it filters hard.

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly". Collapsing the two is how boards like this generate false certainty.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/muscle_cramp_mo1.2k points·2 years ago·edited

Cloned storefronts copy assets, layout and testimonial text. What they cannot easily copy is a batch-specific document that ties to a lot you can then have tested independently.

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[deleted]462 points·2 years ago

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u/reflux_report595 points·2 years ago

The checks I run before sending money anywhere new, in order, and none of them cost anything.

Domain first, character by character, pasted rather than typed. Then registration age against the claimed trading history. Then a request, in writing, for a batch-specific certificate for the lot they would ship — not the catalogue document.

Then a small order, tested independently. Only after that a real one. This sequence has cost me a handful of small orders and it has never once cost me a large one, which is the whole point.

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u/signe_boateng377 points·2 years ago

Careful. What you are describing is a delayed shipment, and this board should not turn that into an accusation without more.

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u/lukas_delgado574 points·2 years ago

Disagree with naming anyone on that basis. One person’s bad month is not a pattern and the sidebar exists for this exact reason.

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u/greta_chukwu466 points·2 years ago

a domain registered last month with a decade of testimonials is the whole tell

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u/mei_cardoso150 points·2 years ago

a domain registered last month with a decade of testimonials is the whole tell

Agreed. Dates and documents make a report. Adjectives make a thread.

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u/fatima_yildizOP356 points·2 years ago

That is a report count, not a test count, and it changes how thin the evidence base actually is.

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u/marisol_frisk542 points·2 years ago

a shop that will only talk off-platform has told you something

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u/santiago_rasmussen133 points·2 years ago

Right, and the group-buy structure is the underrated risk here. One person holds everything and there is no recourse designed in.

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u/naomi_erdogan372 points·2 years ago

a shop that will only talk off-platform has told you something

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts388 points·2 years ago

Not convinced. A payment window that closed is a payment window, not evidence of intent.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition317 points·2 years ago

Domain age, registrar and certificate issuance date are all public and take about a minute to check. A site claiming years of history on a months-old domain is the cheapest signal available.

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u/nikhil_teixeira246 points·2 years ago

Correction: that domain is one character different from the one you posted, which is rather the point of this thread.

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u/ahmed_cardoso154 points·2 years ago

Same. A batch-specific document requested before payment costs nothing and filters an enormous amount.

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u/osman_brandt271 points·2 years ago

Reported something here with dates and screenshots and was asked for the document trail. Fair challenge, and it made the report worth reading.

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u/fatima_yildizOP136 points·2 years ago·edited

Correcting my own post: the payment date was the 14th, not the 4th. The gap is smaller than I made it sound.

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u/fatima_yildizOP62 points·2 years ago

no batch number, no date, no method — that is the pattern, not one detail

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u/aa_analysis_andy0 points·2 years ago

Correcting my own post: the payment date was the 14th, not the 4th.

This is the check that catches most of it, and it takes under a minute.

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u/ravi_bergstrom154 points·2 years ago

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it. That is not an accusation about anyone — it is a description of the risk shape.

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u/tomas_lundgren128 points·2 years ago

Nearly paid a cloned storefront. Caught it because one character in the domain was wrong and I paste rather than type.

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u/nikhil_teixeira69 points·2 years ago

Went looking for independent results on Amino Asylum after seeing them named three times in a week. Found nothing verifiable in either direction.

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u/ferritin_low107 points·2 years ago

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it.

Disagreeing here: that is a delay, and this board has to keep delay and intent in separate columns.

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u/long_post_larry-4 points·2 years ago

A report is useful here when it carries dates, the exact domain, what was requested, what arrived and what did not. Everything else is atmosphere.

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u/rui_only_ro39 points·2 years ago

no names without evidence, that is the sidebar rule and it is a good one

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