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c/scamalerts·posted 2 years ago by u/reflux_report

[Lab] HJ tirz — Janoshik came back 97.4% against a claimed 97.0%

PSA Clean Column ×4

HJ tirz — Janoshik came back 97.4% against a claimed 97.0%. That is the headline. The document, the batch and the service are below so you can argue with the method rather than with me.

Numbers, in the order they matter: 97.4% and 97.0%.

Cloned storefronts copy assets, layout and testimonial text. What they cannot easily copy is a batch-specific document that ties to a lot you can then have tested independently.

Domain age, registrar and certificate issuance date are all public and take about a minute to check. A site claiming years of history on a months-old domain is the cheapest signal available.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

1,427 up / 548 down72% upvoted38 commentsid 1seb0s26 Apr 2024
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The source page carries the verification log and every independent test a member has paid for. The storefront link is marked nofollow and sponsored; nobody here is paid for it.

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u/dose_diary_danalog keeper61 points·2 years ago

The group-buy structure, described neutrally, because the arguments here always get personal.

One person collects money, places one order, receives it, splits it and forwards it. That structure concentrates payment, custody and communication in a single point with no contract, no escrow and no recourse designed in. It is not an allegation about any organiser to say so.

What follows from it: the failure mode is silence rather than dispute, the people exposed have no visibility, and there is nothing to escalate to. If you take part, take part knowing the shape of what you have agreed to.

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u/farid_kuipers40 points·2 years ago

That is a report count, not a test count, and it changes how thin the evidence base actually is.

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u/coa_forgery_watchMOD46 points·2 years ago

Retitled from an accusation to a description. Same facts, and now the post survives being wrong.

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u/careful_gradient_notes37 points·2 years ago·edited

I would separate the two claims. The site being newly registered is checkable. The motive you are inferring is not.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts25 points·2 years ago·edited

That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.

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u/rina_bergstrom7 points·2 years ago

Disagree with naming anyone on that basis. One person’s bad month is not a pattern and the sidebar exists for this exact reason.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting15 points·2 years ago

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it. That is not an accusation about anyone — it is a description of the risk shape.

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u/whois_wanda7 points·2 years ago

never accuse an individual, describe what happened to you

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u/signe_boateng10 points·2 years ago

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly". Collapsing the two is how boards like this generate false certainty.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim3 points·2 years ago

Not convinced. A payment window that closed is a payment window, not evidence of intent.

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u/sena_teixeira13 points·2 years ago

Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular.

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u/pavel_nkemelu3 points·2 years ago

Push back: "nobody has tested them" is a fact about this board, not a fact about the company. Say the first one.

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u/reflux_reportOP2 points·2 years ago

Small fix — the name you are describing is in the wider-market table with almost nothing on file, not in the documented twenty.

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u/tuva_aalto2 points·2 years ago

Push back: "nobody has tested them" is a fact about this board, not a fact about the company.

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

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u/reflux_reportOP-28 points·2 years ago

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

Disagreeing here: that is a delay, and this board has to keep delay and intent in separate columns.

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u/osman_brandt1 point·2 years ago

a shop that will only talk off-platform has told you something

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u/blunt_coldbox_20244 points·2 years ago

Same. A batch-specific document requested before payment costs nothing and filters an enormous amount.

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u/britta_boateng3 points·2 years ago

A report is useful here when it carries dates, the exact domain, what was requested, what arrived and what did not. Everything else is atmosphere.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim7 points·2 years ago

Lost money once, years ago, to a shop that pushed hard for a decision the same day. Every time I see that pressure now I close the tab.

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u/nordic_pricing5 points·2 years ago

Ask for the batch-specific certificate before payment. Any operation with a quality system behind it can produce one; the request costs you nothing and it filters hard.

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