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c/scamalerts·posted 2 years ago by u/solene_ilunga

[Discussion] can we stop arguing about scam until somebody posts a number

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can we stop arguing about scam until somebody posts a number, and I want the answer with the reasoning attached rather than just the conclusion.

The checks I run before sending money anywhere new, in order, and none of them cost anything.

Domain first, character by character, pasted rather than typed. Then registration age against the claimed trading history. Then a request, in writing, for a batch-specific certificate for the lot they would ship — not the catalogue document.

Then a small order, tested independently. Only after that a real one. This sequence has cost me a handful of small orders and it has never once cost me a large one, which is the whole point.

Reported something here with dates and screenshots and was asked for the document trail. Fair challenge, and it made the report worth reading.

Went looking for independent results on Paradigm Peptide after seeing them named three times in a week. Found nothing verifiable in either direction.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/rina_bergstrom-34 points·2 years ago

Domain age, registrar and certificate issuance date are all public and take about a minute to check. A site claiming years of history on a months-old domain is the cheapest signal available.

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u/tuva_aalto1 point·2 years ago

a shop that will only talk off-platform has told you something

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u/freya_onwuka1 point·2 years ago

Domain age, registrar and certificate issuance date are all public and take about a minute to check.

rina_bergstrom has the group-buy risk right — it is structural, not a judgement about anybody in particular.

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u/archived_thread_a1 point·2 years ago

Cloned storefronts copy assets, layout and testimonial text. What they cannot easily copy is a batch-specific document that ties to a lot you can then have tested independently.

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u/aleksi_marchand2 points·2 years ago

if the price is impossible, the material is the thing being economised on

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u/aleksi_marchand108 points·2 years ago

Agreed on the no-names rule. It protects the board and it protects people who turn out to be wrong.

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u/ahmed_cardoso81 points·2 years ago

no names without evidence, that is the sidebar rule and it is a good one

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[removed]59 points·2 years ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/georgi_tamm103 points·2 years ago

screenshots are not evidence, dates and documents are

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u/solene_ilungaOP41 points·2 years ago

Was in a group buy that went quiet for six weeks. It resolved in the end, but the structure meant I had no visibility and no recourse the whole time.

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