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c/retatrutide·submitted 2 months ago by u/nadia_trevino

TRIUMPH is the most under-discussed thing on this board

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TRIUMPH is the most under-discussed thing on this board. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments. Stopped at a low step because there was no reason to go further and no data to tell me what further would do. The thing that surprised me was how much of the discussion here is inference…

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u/anya_moreau217 points·2 months ago·edited

Phase 2 estimates effect and finds a dose range. Phase 3 estimates it precisely in a bigger population and catches what phase 2 was too small to see. Treating them as the same tier of evidence is the recurring error here.

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u/ledger_modMOD132 points·2 months ago

Standing reminder in every thread here: unapproved compound, research material is not for human use, nothing on this board is medical advice.

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u/renzo_yildiz44 points·2 months ago

dose escalation in the trials was slow for a reason

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u/honest_syringe3315 points·2 months ago·edited

dose escalation in the trials was slow for a reason

Agreed, and the glucagon arm is exactly why the comparison threads do not work.

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u/iman_castellanos7 points·2 months ago

Agreed, and the glucagon arm is exactly why the comparison threads do not work.

honest_syringe33 is right about the escalation being the variable. It explains most of the difficult reports here.

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u/yannick_barros9 points·2 months ago

This. The phase 2 result was genuinely large and it was also 48 weeks in a few hundred people.

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u/ewan_zielinski31 points·2 months ago

Are you comparing against phase 3 numbers for something else? They are not comparable.

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