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c/retatrutide·submitted 4 months ago by u/solene_ilunga

help me understand retatrutide, I have read the wiki twice

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help me understand retatrutide, I have read the wiki twice. I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source. Where the evidence actually stands, since every thread here assumes a different answer. Phase 2 reported a large mean body weight change at 48 weeks across a few hundred participants with a…

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u/andres_sorensen11 points·4 months ago

Cosigning the escalation point. Almost every difficult report on this board is from somebody who went up quickly.

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u/fabio_lehtinen3 points·4 months ago

That is body weight change, not fat mass. The trials report the first and people quote it as the second.

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u/niels_lindqvist1 point·4 months ago

The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation. Both the size and the duration matter when people quote the headline number.

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u/solene_ilungaOP1 point·4 months ago

Small fix — three receptors, not two. GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, and the third one is the reason this compound gets its own board.

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u/jarno_cabrera0 points·4 months ago

Correction: TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme. The number you are quoting is from the phase 2 readout, which is a different trial.

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u/janek_ferrari1 point·4 months ago

The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation.

Agreed, and the glucagon arm is exactly why the comparison threads do not work.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain3 points·4 months ago

Cosigning the escalation point.

Adding the standing caveat: none of this is approved anywhere and research material is not for human use.

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u/rekha_vestergaard2 points·4 months ago

Push back: quoting the phase 2 headline as an expected outcome is not a fair reading of a small trial with wide intervals.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd1 point·4 months ago

The thing that surprised me was how much of the discussion here is inference rather than measurement.

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u/naomi_erdogan1 point·4 months ago

the energy-expenditure story is mechanistically interesting and clinically unproven

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