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c/retatrutide·submitted 3 months ago by u/ledger_mod

triple agonist: what the trials say vs what this community says

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triple agonist: what the trials say vs what this community says. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments. The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation. Both the size and the duration matter when people quote the headline number. Glucagon…

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u/cagrilintide_enthusiast104 points·3 months ago

Agreed, and the framing that helps is: this is a phase 2 compound with phase 3 running. Everything else is inference.

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u/signe_villalobos30 points·3 months ago

phase 2 data only, and people quote it like it is a label

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u/nadia_norgaard17 points·3 months ago·edited

phase 2 data only, and people quote it like it is a label

Disagree with this specific inference. A 48-week readout does not tell you the shape of the curve after it.

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u/heart_rate_bump19 points·3 months ago

phase 2 data only, and people quote it like it is a label

This is the sentence the rest of the board should read first. Phase 2 is not a label.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd9 points·3 months ago

This is the sentence the rest of the board should read first.

Agreed, and the glucagon arm is exactly why the comparison threads do not work.

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u/nabila_bakken4 points·3 months ago

triple agonist — GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, and the glucagon arm is the new part

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology21 points·3 months ago

The thing that surprised me was how much of the discussion here is inference rather than measurement.

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u/lina_bruun7 points·3 months ago

nothing here is available as a prescription product, so read every thread with that in mind

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u/clara_weiss70 points·3 months ago·edited

Are you comparing against phase 3 numbers for something else? They are not comparable.

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u/dead_space_doug44 points·3 months ago

How fast was the escalation? That is usually the variable that explains the reports.

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