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c/retatrutide·submitted 2 years ago by u/trialwatch_theo

[Lab] 2th independent test on BCH — 97.8% on a claimed 97.5%, and the trend is the interesting part

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Title says it — 2th independent test on BCH — 97.8% on a claimed 97.5%, and the trend is the interesting part — so here is the boring supporting detail that makes it worth anything. The relevant figures are 97.8% and 97.5%, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time. Watched heart rate on a wearable…

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u/employer_carveout439 points·2 years ago

Glucagon receptor agonism is associated with increased energy expenditure and with hepatic effects. That is a mechanistic story with strong preclinical support and limited phase 2 human data.

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u/niels_lindqvist251 points·2 years ago·edited

Glucagon receptor agonism is associated with increased energy expenditure and with hepatic effects.

employer_carveout is right about the escalation being the variable. It explains most of the difficult reports here.

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u/careful_gradient32238 points·2 years ago

The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation. Both the size and the duration matter when people quote the headline number.

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u/halima_mbeki82 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the escalation point. Almost every difficult report on this board is from somebody who went up quickly.

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u/nadia_trevino66 points·2 years ago

nothing here is available as a prescription product, so read every thread with that in mind

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u/hassan_nilsen354 points·2 years ago·edited

What do you think the glucagon component is adding, specifically?

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u/farid_molnar-31 points·2 years ago

It is a triple agonist at the GLP-1, GIP and glucagon receptors. The glucagon arm is the genuinely novel component and it is the one with the least human outcome data behind it.

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