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c/retatrutide·posted 2 years ago by u/ferran_krastev

retatrutide — my 21-week log, condensed into one table

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retatrutide — my 21-week log, condensed into one table. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Where the evidence actually stands, since every thread here assumes a different answer.

Phase 2 reported a large mean body weight change at 48 weeks across a few hundred participants with a slow, protocol-driven escalation. The effect size was striking. The confidence intervals were wide, the population was small, and the duration was under a year.

Phase 3 is running. Until it reports, everything else — including the ranking arguments this board loves — is extrapolation from a small study. That is not a criticism of the compound; it is a description of the evidence.

Kept a log specifically because there is so little published. It is one person and it is not data.

The thing that surprised me was how much of the discussion here is inference rather than measurement.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/hassan_nilsen15 points·2 years ago

The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation. Both the size and the duration matter when people quote the headline number.

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u/ferran_krastevOP7 points·2 years ago

The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation.

Disagree with this specific inference. A 48-week readout does not tell you the shape of the curve after it.

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u/ferran_krastevOP4 points·2 years ago

Is that the 48-week figure or an earlier readout?

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u/baseline_drifteranalytical9 points·2 years ago

heart rate is the thing people report watching

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u/nadia_trevino3 points·2 years ago·edited

comparing reta phase 2 to sema phase 3 is comparing different things

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u/blunt_coldbox_202412 points·2 years ago

heart rate is the thing people report watching

Adding the standing caveat: none of this is approved anywhere and research material is not for human use.

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u/source_or_silence10 points·2 years ago

Stopped at a low step because there was no reason to go further and no data to tell me what further would do.

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u/ledger_modMOD6 points·2 years ago

Standing reminder in every thread here: unapproved compound, research material is not for human use, nothing on this board is medical advice.

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u/source_or_silence4 points·2 years ago

research-use-only material is not approved for human use, full stop

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u/nikhil_lindqvist2 points·2 years ago

Yes — the comparison threads are apples to oranges and they generate more heat than anything else here.

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u/hassan_nilsen4 points·2 years ago

Correcting my own comment above: that figure was the 36-week interim, not the 48-week endpoint.

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u/arne_amankwah1 point·2 years ago

dose escalation in the trials was slow for a reason

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Retatrutide: GIP/GLP-1/glucagon triple agonism, the TRIUMPH programme, and the fact that most people discussing it are handling research-grade material with no human-use approval anywhere. Dose-response, heart-rate signal, and the unusually steep phase-2 weight curves get argued about here weekly.

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