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c/retatrutide·submitted 1 year ago by u/yannick_salinas

3 months in and triple agonist is still the thing I get wrong

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Reporting in. 3 months in and triple agonist is still the thing I get wrong. The numbers the title promised, since a headline without them is worthless: 3 months. Everything below is context for those. Stopped at a low step because there was no reason to go further and no data to tell me what further would do. Where…

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u/jarno_cabrera324 points·1 year ago

Phase 2 estimates effect and finds a dose range. Phase 3 estimates it precisely in a bigger population and catches what phase 2 was too small to see. Treating them as the same tier of evidence is the recurring error here.

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u/honest_syringe_202589 points·1 year ago

Watched heart rate on a wearable across twelve weeks because the threads said to. It moved a little and I have no idea whether that means anything.

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u/careful_gradient_again20 points·1 year ago

Read the phase 2 paper twice before ordering anything. Recommend that to anyone in this board: the error bars are the interesting part.

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u/kofi_balogun211 points·1 year ago·edited

Are you comparing against phase 3 numbers for something else? They are not comparable.

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u/placebo_arm_pam64 points·1 year ago

phase 2 data only, and people quote it like it is a label

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u/andres_restrepo33 points·1 year ago

Right, and it bears repeating that nothing here is approved anywhere and research material is not for human use.

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u/titration_marshalmod · c/semaglutide25 points·1 year ago

Increases in heart rate have been reported across this receptor class. The magnitude and clinical significance are exactly what phase 3 is powered to establish.

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u/rosa_almeida100 points·1 year ago

Yes — the comparison threads are apples to oranges and they generate more heat than anything else here.

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