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c/reconstitution·posted 2 years ago by u/ines_lindqvist

[Question] concentration — what am I missing here

Question Clean Column ×6 Long Haul ×2 Slow Clap ×1

Trying to get a straight answer on this: concentration — what am I missing here.

Shook the first vial because nobody told me not to. It was fine, but I have swirled every one since.

I keep a laminated card in the drawer with the arithmetic on it. Looks ridiculous. Has never once let me draw the wrong volume.

Spent 12 weeks confused about this until somebody drew the table for me. 10mg, 3mL, 3.33mg/mL, 1mg is 30 units. That is the whole thing.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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u/units_not_mgsyringe math497 points·2 years ago

The lyophilised cake displaces a small volume, so the true concentration is very slightly lower than the arithmetic suggests. It is a fraction of a percent and it is dwarfed by fill tolerance.

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u/marta_weiss388 points·2 years ago

Aim the stream down the wall of the vial rather than into the cake. Reconstitution is a solubility problem, not a mixing problem, and mechanical shear does nothing helpful.

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u/india_generic_g128 points·2 years ago

more water is not more drug, it is the same drug in a bigger volume

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u/tuva_kirchner260 points·2 years ago

Adding more water does not change how much peptide is in the vial. It changes the concentration, which changes the volume you draw for the same amount. That is the entire relationship.

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u/vial_math_verasyringe math90 points·2 years ago

That is sterile water, not bacteriostatic. Same appearance, different product, and it matters for a multi-draw vial.

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u/ines_lindqvistOP56 points·2 years ago

That is sterile water, not bacteriostatic.

vial_math_vera has the units point exactly right. They are a volume on the barrel and nothing else.

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u/emil_okwuosa224 points·2 years ago

The arithmetic in full: concentration is mass over volume, so 20mg into 2mL gives 10mg/mL. A U-100 syringe is graduated at 100 units per millilitre, so 5mg is 5 divided by 10 millilitres, which is 50 units.

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u/ines_lindqvistOP97 points·2 years ago

Started reconstituting everything to a round concentration and the six-in-the-morning error rate went to zero.

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u/ines_lindqvistOP51 points·2 years ago

Wrote the date on the vial as well as the concentration after losing track of which one was opened first.

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u/sofia_danquah22 points·2 years ago

write the concentration on the vial in marker, that is the whole post

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u/vial_math_veraMOD124 points·2 years ago

Corrected the concentration in the title, which contradicted the body. Nothing else touched.

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u/arto_falk98 points·2 years ago

I would not round that figure. At 5mg/mL a rounding error of two units is a real fraction of the intended amount.

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u/kavya_radich82 points·2 years ago

Correction: that gives 90 units, not what you have written. 5mg into 3mL is 1.67mg/mL and the division follows from there.

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u/rasmus_kuipers81 points·2 years ago

the powder cake sits at the bottom, the volume you add is the volume that counts

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u/aurel_boateng18 points·2 years ago

Asked FGP what volume they reconstitute to for their own stability testing and they answered in one line. Useful thing to know.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting55 points·2 years ago

If your calculation produces a fraction of a unit, the concentration is wrong for your dose. Change the water volume until the numbers land on whole units.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution32 points·2 years ago

The dead space question sent me down a rabbit hole for a week. It is a fraction of a unit and it is the same every draw.

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u/india_generic_g39 points·2 years ago

Disagree with the "more water is safer" framing. It is not safer, it is just a different number to divide by.

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